In a message dated 3/11/2005 10:43:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, Rbuffdogs writes: > While these are excellent and valid points, all of them, conformation vs > working, and believe me these arguments exist in the GSD worldwide, (I would > love to see the Selects require a title at both ends, and a full on, Bob > Penny > style Temperament test for the final 10, but I know it will never happen, > lol) > And although valid arguments we don't want to turn the standard discussion > into a German system v American system argument or get into whether a CH can > work (yes) but can an obedience/working dog then get a CH (yes). We need to > differentiate the topics. > The breed is worth whatever it takes to BETTER it, whether it is better > public education, through say a standard? Whether it is DISALLOWING obvious > physical defects and mental unsoundness to be rewarded, or what have you. If > it > takes a year or two great, if it takes TEN years the breed is worth it. Rome > wasn't built in a day, but it was ruined in one helluva hurry. > Kathy > Amen... You are absolutely right. We must have some standard of working with confirmation to better the breed from a total picture. Sure the German standard has been in place for years.. But we can create something ... And if it take 2-10 years. yes, the breed is worth it... Mike ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================