Kathy, Just for the record, I don't have anything to be vindictive about.If all are innocent, and I assume they are, then you can feel secure in the facts. I simply reported what I witnessed, nothing more. I am not privy to private conversations and what transpired between all involved. Keep in mind I didn't exhibit at the MW fut, so not like we lost, We didn't exhibit to you in Oklahoma, and my dog went WD at the show March 16..If I were "vindictive" I would have pursued looking into improprieties, but as stated it didn't matter to me or Steve. Again this wasn't "speculation" on our part. Facts are, one handler was listed as agent, the handler from Puerto Rico wasn't there, so another handler, handled who then showed to you at the MW and in Okalhoma.The dog in question was entered at the other shows the same weekend but was not shown. Two weeks later, the retired handler again was listed as agent in Memphis/ little rock, no handler from Puerto Rico was there and the dog wasn't shown, again. No problem. My only question was, 'evidence" without testimony from those present, I would think the evidence was one sided. Not sure why the AKC was contacted as I can attest that we certainly didn't complain, so without a complaint how is the AKC to rule on anything? to me it is all hypothetical, but I would agree that it is always wise to know where you stand. I was asked to do a seminar between two shows. Happened I planned to exhibit at those two shows, I asked AKC their advice, I opted not to do the seminar, as it might not look so good. Again, always best to seek advice before anything happens! Happy to know this has all worked out for the best. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Kathy Potter <tokaye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>; <ELG440@xxxxxxx> > Date: 8/10/2007 7:57:55 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: It may be too personal > > OK - I have had enough of this speculation and misrepresentation! = > Although > I was asked not to discuss this in 'this public forum' I feel that my = > name > and reputation has been sullied here. The 'retired handler' in question = > was > boarding and training my dog. A handler who lives in Puerto Rico was the > dog's handler and was unable to attend those shows. The 'retired = > handler' or > agent was ALWAYS listed as this dog's agent in the catalogs because he = > was. > The handler from Puerto Rico was unable to attend the multi-show weekend = > and > the 'agent' had another handler (his daughter) substitute AT THAT ONE = > SHOW > THAT WEEKEND. The dog wasn't shown at ANY OTHER SHOW THAT WEEKEND! This > judge/owner WAS NOT PRESENT and wasn't even aware that this had happened > until weeks later. > > The issues that you should all be aware of are as follows: > > - Once I learned of this issue I wrote a letter to the authorities = > involved > and shared ALL of the facts, > - The parties involved (not the judge, who didn't know at that point) > reported this in advance to the Futurity Chairman and were told that = > this > was not an issue, > - Your BOARD and your FUTURITY CHAIRMAN did the 'RIGHT THING', as did = > I. We > submitted this to AKC and asked them to handle it, > - Just as an aside - what kind of 'favor' would someone think I owed to = > a > handler who showed my dog and went 2nd in a class of 2?, > - AKC did rule and now ALL of these 'complainers' aren't happy because = > they > aren't allowed to satisfy their vindictiveness, which of course is the = > real > issue here. AKC has ruled. GET OVER IT. > > If you ever want to know why people are disinterested in this club and = > have > chosen to disengage - just ask me. Here was a case where I was very = > aware of > the rules to be followed as a Futurity judge. In order to fulfill those > requirements I ensured that 'my handlers' did not show to me or did not > enter any of their dogs or have other handlers show them to me at the > Midwest Futurity. Should you want more information, contact me = > personally. > I most likely will not be involved with this list any further. > > Kathy Potter > > =20 > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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