Pam, I have one more thing for you to check on your girl before you decide she is 'pushing your buttons'. Have her eyes checked. If she has anything going on with her eyes, the jump into the vehicle could seem like jumping into a black hole for her. We had a golden retriever that had her eyes cleared multiple times but at 8 1/2 she had PRA that had progressed to the point that she did not want to leap into the van. There wasn't anything wrong with her jumping ability, she just didn't want to jump into something she couldn't see clearly. Sue Mazzeo From: "Pam Brink" <pamb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Irritated with the OFA Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:32:55 -0700 Thanks so much for all your comments. As a bit of a follow up to several questions: She did have a fully set of X-rays of the spine as well as hips and legs. No abnormalities in the X-rays, no arthritic changes, cartilage looks good etc etc. In addition, she was quite able to leap up on the vet's table for her examination without any help at all. I think this dog is pushing my buttons and telling me little stories. I am glad there is nothing wrong with her. I was pleased to see the statistics Melissa quoted on how many disagree/agree on their readings. And these are all supposed to be board certified canine orthopedists with a radiology background. Sigh. And all these years I based all my breeding decisions on their ratings. Thanks for letting me rant. Pam Brink http://clubweb.interbaun.com/~pamb/index.php CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================