The three fractions are AWSA (White Shepherds) and the WGSDCII and WGSDCA (sister clubs) who want the whites to remain as German Shepherds. THe WGSDCA and WGSDCII do agree, not "sort of agree". Barb H - PA -----Original Message----- From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2011 8:33 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: I am decided Well....I DO care who my boys breed. didn't make the rules, but until (if/when???) they are changed I am ammed sure going to follow them. remember when I called Blanche to inquire about becoming a PC member. ne of her first questions was "Did I have/breed whites?". Well, at that ime I bought my dogs (from the "old" BJ's kennels who ABSOLUTELY didn't have hites), and I didn't breed, but I knew one thing...if Blanche was that ead set against it, and IF I wanted to be a PC member, I had better answer no". esides, I knew the standard and why the hell would I want to deliberately reed FOR a disqualifying fault? I'm still puzzled over that one...why ould one breed a disqualifying fault on purpose???? No one has been able to nlighten me on THAT one lol! And here I am trying to breed to the tandard. Can't say it hasn't paid off....funny the way that works, no? or the record, I don't much like the Internet sites I see that ONLY breed or coats, or ONLY breed for oversize etc., etc. etc. gain....it's a free country...people can do what they want. 've said all along, if the white breeders want to go, let them. If they ant to stay, knowing the "rules" preclude them from competing in the breed ing, let them. I said earlier today that the three factions couldn't gree..I was later informed in a private post that 2 of the three factions sort of agree" and that only one faction wants to leave the PC and form their wn breed. So be it...when they figure it out, God speed. 'm thinking of a cute sign for Pine Hill's GSDs "Whites need not apply". G>. athy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC elebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions isit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) n a message dated 8/5/2011 7:58:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, LG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 8/5/11 3:15:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, inehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: So are you going to let one of your boys breed a white?... because that as he discussion in the post you clipped. I would think it would depend on the quality of the bitch. I also ondered if we are getting a break on the price of the Review, a discount n the ds since they will be two months to be seen, and if the cost of the staff or publishing is being cut in half. If I remember, Ben when he was the number one stud dog in the county had omething like 16 breedings of which three were paid bredings. I would ave o problem breeding to a quality white bitch. I would not want to breed o a bitch with bad temperment, or other problems. But, since now a white an't be shown in conformation, why would I care? Those seem like reasonable changes to go with the cut of 50% of the ublication. Show me the money. Evan Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the riginal author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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