Well....I DO care who my boys breed. I didn't make the rules, but until (if/when???) they are changed I am dammed sure going to follow them. I remember when I called Blanche to inquire about becoming a PC member. One of her first questions was "Did I have/breed whites?". Well, at that time I bought my dogs (from the "old" BJ's kennels who ABSOLUTELY didn't have whites), and I didn't breed, but I knew one thing...if Blanche was that dead set against it, and IF I wanted to be a PC member, I had better answer "no". Besides, I knew the standard and why the hell would I want to deliberately breed FOR a disqualifying fault? I'm still puzzled over that one...why would one breed a disqualifying fault on purpose???? No one has been able to enlighten me on THAT one lol! And here I am trying to breed to the standard. Can't say it hasn't paid off....funny the way that works, no? For the record, I don't much like the Internet sites I see that ONLY breed for coats, or ONLY breed for oversize etc., etc. etc. Again....it's a free country...people can do what they want. I've said all along, if the white breeders want to go, let them. If they want to stay, knowing the "rules" preclude them from competing in the breed ring, let them. I said earlier today that the three factions couldn't agree..I was later informed in a private post that 2 of the three factions "sort of agree" and that only one faction wants to leave the PC and form their own breed. So be it...when they figure it out, God speed. I'm thinking of a cute sign for Pine Hill's GSDs "Whites need not apply". <G>. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 8/5/2011 7:58:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 8/5/11 3:15:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes: So are you going to let one of your boys breed a white?... because that was the discussion in the post you clipped. I would think it would depend on the quality of the bitch. I also wondered if we are getting a break on the price of the Review, a discount on the ads since they will be two months to be seen, and if the cost of the staff for publishing is being cut in half. If I remember, Ben when he was the number one stud dog in the county had something like 16 breedings of which three were paid bredings. I would have no problem breeding to a quality white bitch. I would not want to breed to a bitch with bad temperment, or other problems. But, since now a white can't be shown in conformation, why would I care? Those seem like reasonable changes to go with the cut of 50% of the publication. Show me the money. 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