[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Great Conformation German Shepherd Dog

  • From: Sally Hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:27:15 -0600

I think the driving force may change over the years.  I know it did for 
me.getting older, retirement changing family commitments.I feel excitement  and 
pleasure taking my own dog in the ring and winning .

Sally
www.embroiderybysally.org


On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Hickoryhill  <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Interesting thread and even more interesting are what the driving forces are 
> for people in this sport. Awhile ago, I was talking with a friend about dog 
> breeding, puppies, etc. She stated that when she bred her bitches, she always 
> bred litters with the hopes of producing a specialty winner. I sort of 
> laughed and told her, we always bred litters to produce dogs that would go 
> select. There is a significant difference as many dogs finish at specialty 
> shows and never go select.  Flower Boy, I had to laugh at your example, your 
> content with a horse that wins the Derby whereasI want a horse that will win 
> the Triple Crown! LOL! To me, Everything is relative to where you set your 
> own standard bar. If you set your sights  lower you aspire to achieve 
> accordingly, if you set it higher, it may take longer to attain your goal, 
> but you have the satisfaction of achieving the best in your sport. With that 
> said you have to be realistic about what you are working with in terms of 
> dogs and breeding. At the national Jerry Guzman and I had a very interesting 
> conversation about "critical analysis" or the ability of a breeder or even 
> exhibitor to be able to critically look at the animals they are 
> breeding/showing or take critical comments about their animals from others. 
> We determined ( for the sake of our conversation) that a lack of critical 
> evaluation was basically lowering the standard bar for our breed. Grant you, 
> was just a conversation between a breeder and a handler, but I walked away 
> thinking that would be a good topic for the List! C
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> That is why the dog game is so interesting we all want different things.  
> After many many years of being a hard core specialty person . I have come 
> full circle and am back at all breeds doing my own thing and having fun.
> 
> A gorgeous extreme moving German shepherd still takes my breath away but I am 
> content to watch them and let someone else have the thrill of owning and 
> showing them.
> 
> Sally
> www.embroiderybysally.org
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> All I ever wanted when I started out was to put obedience titles on my dogs. 
>>  (I still like that!)  Then I wanted a dog that could compete in both 
>> "types" (ahem!) of breed rings.  Along the ways I bought a great one:  BIS 
>> Select CH Plainbrownwrapper v Jada-Edan.  There will NEVER be another Punky. 
>>  The ONLY thing my ego drove me to do was to breed a solid black bitch 
>> champion, which I did.  Amazingly, despite the economy, the bs and 
>> back-stabbing, I still love to show dogs.  Flower Boy, I would never trade a 
>> BIS for a Select.  Just the way my head spins.
>> 
>> Penny in NC
>> The Farm Dog
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Sally Hayden wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting Ed all I ever wanted was my ROM's .my  rom plaques mean more to 
>>> me then my dogs select
>>> 
>>> Sally
>>> www.embroiderybysally.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:18 PM, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ...I guess everyone defines great differently ( it's all ego anyway and 
>>>> that's okay)...Watching the Covy-Tucker Hill video a statement was made 
>>>> and I quote " All good dogs are not Champions and all Champions are not 
>>>> good dogs".....I never had a great conformation GSD, I've only had three 
>>>> good ones and I'm only talking conformation.......Joe Frazier was a GREAT 
>>>> heavy-weight fighter/champion.....he was great because he beat other great 
>>>> fighters.....to be great you have to compete against and beat other great 
>>>> competitors..... I'd exchange every other conformation title including BIS 
>>>> for a "Select" title....in this sport the National is the Super Bowl of 
>>>> shows for the GSD......I wanted one of those select titles more than 
>>>> anything when I showed dogs...didn't get one, but for the most part I 
>>>> enjoyed the chase....if I ever get a race horse and I never 
>>>> will...lol....I want to win the Derby!....but like I said before, it's all 
>>>> ego...lol...how do you define great........RIP Joe, y
> ou
>>> 
>>>> were a Great one...Ed Hill
>>>> 
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