...I guess everyone defines great differently ( it's all ego anyway and that's okay)...Watching the Covy-Tucker Hill video a statement was made and I quote " All good dogs are not Champions and all Champions are not good dogs".....I never had a great conformation GSD, I've only had three good ones and I'm only talking conformation.......Joe Frazier was a GREAT heavy-weight fighter/champion.....he was great because he beat other great fighters.....to be great you have to compete against and beat other great competitors..... I'd exchange every other conformation title including BIS for a "Select" title....in this sport the National is the Super Bowl of shows for the GSD......I wanted one of those select titles more than anything when I showed dogs...didn't get one, but for the most part I enjoyed the chase....if I ever get a race horse and I never will...lol....I want to win the Derby!....but like I said before, it's all ego...lol...how do you define great........RIP Joe, you were a Great one...Ed Hill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================