The Germans do not show longcoats. They are a disqualifying (elimination) fault. l) Long coat (long, soft outer coat without undercoat). This coat type frequently is parted along the center line of the back, has flags on ears, legs, and tail. They do have a separate class and association for working stock coats. There is a big difference. The flaw here is with the judges who are apparently unable to judge to the AKC standard. Joan l) Long coat (long, soft outer coat without undercoat). This coat type frequently is parted along the center line of the back, has flags on ears, legs, and tail. l) Long coat (long, soft outer coat without undercoat). This coat type frequently is parted along the center line of the back, has flags on ears, legs, and tail. Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 >________________________________ > From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> >To: "tanksr@xxxxxxxxx" <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> >Cc: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:18 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Germany > >My only question is: why a different class? They are not a fault nor are they >a variety. Seems to me the long coats should just enter any class they qualify >for. Or is this too simple?? > >Ileana > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jun 20, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> We can certainly learn from them, or anyone else who is highly successful. >> They do have around 90,000 members. Love to have 1/4 of that. >> Ken >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:28 PM, <TISHW@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> WDA follows the German style of judging and sends their breed surveys, >>> etc., to Germany which is why they needed to include the long coat in a >>> special >>> class. We obviously do not follow the same rules when we judge and breed >>> and do not have to have a special long coat class. >>> >>> Tish >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 6/19/2012 10:24:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: >>> In a message dated 6/19/2012 4:33:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> TISHW@xxxxxxx writes: >>> The Germans have created a class for "long stock coats with >>> undercoats". >>> >>> Not all long coats are of this variety. They have to be certified as >>> being >>> of this type and can only be bred to a long stock coat with undercoat. >>> When the Germans instituted this class it became necessary for WDA to >>> also >>> have such a class. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the Germans invaded Poland would you? Probably a bad example, but I >>> don't see us doing things the same as Germany as progress. >>> >>> Evan L. Ginsburg >>> >> >> >> ===========================================================================>> >> POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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