Yeah, "foo-foo" dogs often display the most crate aggression of all and it can et irritating at times, but they don't have the impressive bark of a German hepherd. Also, in most circumstances, they do not have the power to inflict erious or even fatal injuries. I disagree. All dogs can inflict serious injury. Owners need to recognize if their dogs are crate aggressive and make sure they do not have the opportunity to incite other dogs. At an AB show a few years ago, I was walking my girl and returning to my vendor booth when a couple Boston Terriers, who were very crate aggressive, broke out of their crate and went after my girl. They attacked her. If not for the actions of some other vendors, it could've been ugly. The humans ran at the Bostons as one attached itself to my girls hock. He let go and they both ran over to an Anatolian shepherd. The Boston owner did nothing. The vendors blocked the dogs until the owner came to get them. Now, if either my girl or the Anatolian had one of those dogs for lunch, who would've been at fault? The owner was a major A** and when I asked him afterward to turn his dogs away from the aisle, he went off on me. His dogs were still slamming against the crate door. My girl got between us and stood her ground. He tried to say I had a viscious dog and to call her off. This man, over 6' tall, squared off on me and clenched his fists. No way I was going to call her off. I told him to leave. Long story short, there was a bench hearing and he was suspended from AKC for 6mos. Never underestimated the ferocity of the little guy, LOL! Laura -----Original Message----- From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 1:33 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSD temperament and rep Sally writes: " agree a dog should protect if there is a need for it but a show og should be use to people walking by his cage. Now if they are doing something ith the cage he should protect but certainly not carrying on with people just alking by" totally agree with Sally... At a large AB show I attended, a well known andler had set up the dogs' crates where they were facing an aisle that had a ot of human traffic. Every time a person or dog walked by, all the dogs barked erociously and acted like they were about to bust open the crate doors. I an't tell you how many people flinched as they walked by. A few women and hildren let out small screams. Everybody tried to get as far away from these rates as they could. Now what kind of impression of our Breed did that leave ith the people passing by those crates? ere's another experience... I was at a big Futurity. I went to visit with a very* well known top breeder. I got to love on her friendly dogs in their -pens. (Including a Select and a future Select.) Then, the dogs were put in he box van. The breeder told me to go get in the van and see what happens. I id just that and *all* the dogs went into "guard dog" mode. I doubt if anyone ould have the cojones to get into that van and steal one of those dogs. Now, hat's the type of protective instinct I like to see. These dogs guarded the an, but did not try to terrorize anyone when they were in their x-pens and eople were just walking by. top handler once told me he will not tolerate crate aggression under any ircumstances at a show. Why? Because it gives the impression that GSD's are icious. We know they are not, but the average "lay person" doesn't understand. eah, "foo-foo" dogs often display the most crate aggression of all and it can et irritating at times, but they don't have the impressive bark of a German hepherd. Also, in most circumstances, they do not have the power to inflict erious or even fatal injuries. It doesn't matter that the crate aggressive GSD ould most likely *not* do any bodily harm at all. Joe Blow and his family alking by believes that the crate aggressive GSD, that is barking and snarling, ould like to bust out of that crate and take their heads off. Perception is ll... Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member ellborn-Allemande German Shepherds ui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ---- Original Message ----- rom: "sally" <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx> o: <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:11 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: GSD temperament and rep agree a dog should protect if there is a need for it but a show dog should e use to people walking by his cage. Now if they are doing something with he cage he should protect but certainly not carrying on with people just alking by ally ww.embroiderybysally.org =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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