Well, it's Saturday, and I've caught up a little with stuff, so I'll see what I can stir up here. Morgan, what makes you think that ALL commercial breeders don't give a damn about the health or genetics of their dogs/pups? Believe me, a few years ago, that is what I thought, too, but I let myself open to be educated and have learned, just like occasional breeders (because that's what most of you are), there are excellent, good, fair and poor commercial breeders. There are more industry initiated standards for a LOT of commercial breeders. Many of the organizations/associations are policing themselves. There are more seminars and conferences discussing good health/genetics, kennel care for commercial breeders (which are heavily attended!) than there are for occasional breeders. They aren't breeding for the conformation rings (and when they have a conformation show, you are right... I laugh, too), they are breeding what the public will buy. And without the commercial breeders, where will the 77.5 million dogs that are owned in the U.S. come from? Well, there are the occasional breeders that have a dog and another dog of the same breed (or close) lives down the street... or they let the dog loose, and it comes home in whelp. OR... there are over 500,000 dogs being imported (legally) from countries like Korea, China, Mexico...from kennels that are not USDA inspected or watched. (And yes, USDA needs more in their Budget to have more inspectors, etc., etc.) OR the pup buyers can buy their pups AT the swap meets or off the back of trucks after they've been smuggled in, more than 10,000 a year, often at 5 weeks and sometimes hidden in some pretty awful places. "http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/Veterinary+news/Inside-the-black-market/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/662872 We have found puppies stuffed in speaker boxes, screwed into the car door panels and wrapped in blankets with their little legs taped to their bodies and stuffed under seats,? says Captain Aaron Reyes of the Southeast Animal Control Authority. ?On one occasion, we found, I believe, a dozen puppies in a plastic container in the back of car. Two of the puppies had already died because of the heat, and all of the others were panting and doing severe mouth breathing. They were cooking in there, and they were about 5 weeks old.? Let's work with the commercial breeders that are trying to do the right thing... whether it's the way WE would raise a pup or not. Let's educate ourselves and maybe we can learn that they would be glad to help us fight the ARS... somebody from whom we are all in danger. I am ready for the arguments now:-) Storm On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:26 PM, MORGAN LEWIS wrote: We have seen more and more high quality dogs in rescue. But many of these dogs in auctions are from Commeral breeders that could give a damn about health or genetics. There is also a NET advertising high quality dogs (One just from Missouri Breeders) after looking at many of the pics and prices ($1,500 and up) I could have laughed if it were not so sad. Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA Board Member Canine Pet Rescue http://www.caninepetrescue.com/ "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ________________________________ From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 1:40:38 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx has shared: Dog Auctions Terra, I abhor the idea, too.... but would you rather the commercial breeders turn the dogs into the pound, or even kill them when they shut down their business or are told to reduce their dog population? I used to go to horse and cattle auctions as a kid. There were some absolutely FINE animals, and then there were those that weren't. IF Missouri doesn't repeal or make changes in the Prop B that just passed, there will be THOUSANDS of pups that will have to go. Unintended consequences. Storm On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:46 AM, terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx wanted to share this with you: > I am amazed that this is legal anywhere in the USA! > > > Dog Auctions > http://shar.es/XsEpj > The Best Friends Network - A social networking online community > dedicated to saving animals lives through forums, resources, and news. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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