Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, as someone who has seen the hotels helms briscoe secured -- they were not what we wanted. i don't think that helms briscoe understood our needs. so we tried using a third party & it didn't work, we need to learn from our mistakes & move on. i am not blaming anyone -- just saying that a new idea didn't work. some new ideas do work & others don't -- no one needs to take sides on this issue or place blame. as someone who has worked for non-profits for over 25 years, i too have been in charge of many special events (some with larger budgets & bigger attendance than our national). i have learned that convention & visitors bureaus from various cities can also help us work with hotels to secure good rates. in addition, they can also work with restaurants, local points of interest, & potential sites to secure special deals for us. (something helms briscoe & companies like them can't do). also, with the cvb's there are no charges for the hotels. that means some hotels that would say no to a business like helms briscoe because it will cost them money will work with the cvb. lea ruggieri ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================