Thanks Lea, for an informative explanation. I don't believe the hotel that we are staying would be deemed unacceptable and I am not certain if others had reservations at any of these other hotels. Despite what some may perceive, I am on a fact finding mission. I really don't care who spins the best story, the truth is the truth. Bottom line is this is all ridiculous and embarrassing for the GSDCA to look so incompetent. All this squabbling is like a bunch of second graders running to the teacher to tattle and everyone wants their story heard first so they can be 'right" Bottom line is most have been wrong on many accounts. From the bungling of the Hunte issue, now this, to he said she said about the minutes, to ignoring the potential of a virtual magazine...for a lack of a better phrase it is what we call in southern Indiana as a big "Cluster f---" If I didn't love the breed so much I wouldn't even renew my damn dues. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: <Pdragon4@xxxxxxx> > To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/19/2007 10:13:58 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Fwd: Re: Helms Briscoe???? > > > In a message dated 5/19/2007 6:15:17 PM Central Daylight Time, > hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Could you then list the hotels that were deemed "not what we needed" and > those that have been selected as "what we need" Also, if the board approved > hiring Helms and Briscoe and it does prove to be true that some hotels were > "not what we needed"..then perhaps there needs to be a lesson learned here > about "rubber stamping" requests and authorizations at Board meetings. Also > again was this new "site visitation" approved by the board, did all the > Board know about it, if not who authorized it and who is paying for it. > Christine > > > > > > hello christine, > > i do not have the list in front of me for the hotels that didn't work. a > couple didn't have enough grass and they were in an area with warehouses and > had no restaurants nearby, one was old & run down, and another said they > didn't have a contract with helms briscoe & would not give us a special rate. if > you really need the names of those hotels i can look them up for you. just > let me know. i don't know if the helms briscoe reprsentative & joan had seen > these hotels or not. all i know is that this plan didn't work out & i see no > need to make the same mistake again. > > as to this new "site visitation" that is not what it was. each year the > national show chairman has to make a couple of site visits to work out the > details so the national can run smoothly. everything cannot be done by phone. > this was one of nanci's trips. i am nanci's assistant & go with her on at > least one trip (at my expense). i don't know who paid for lew's trip -- he may > have done that out of his own pocket too. you'll have to ask him about that. > we met with the people at the site to work out where everything will go & > what our needs are, we met with sod people to get estimates, we met with > caterers, florists, the convention & visitors bureau to get them involved in helping > us, we spoke with the shuttle service that will get people from the airport > to their hotels, i know i have left out some of our appointments -- i just > can't remember who else we saw. oh yes, we went to each hotel -- we always do > that so we can meet the managers & let them know who we are in case they have > questions about how to deal with our members & their dogs. > > these trips are done at a minimal expense -- the hotel comps a room, and the > caterers & cvb usually pick up the tab for several meals. the cvb also > usually provides all our transportation too. in colordo the WONDERFUL ROCKY MT. > CLUB provided out transportation (thanks patty & mike), paid for some of our > meals (thanks to the whole club) and had a special meeting so we could get > together with their members and they could find out how they could work for OUR > club (we all owe them thanks in advance for the work they will do). ask the > st. louis club about how much work the local clubs do (thanks st. louis club) > for a national. > > and as to the hilton (who gave us an awesome rate by the way) lew did > negotiate with them and they won't sue us. the contract said we needed to rent at > least 50 rooms to fulfill our new contract -- not that they would only rent > 50 rooms to us. the manager said he would love to rent the whole hotel to us. > so if you called & were told the rooms were all gone -- call back. that has > been worked out. > > ONCE AGAIN, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS & SPREAD RUMORS. 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