I think that what Amy did was wise and correct. We have to be responsible for the heath of all the dogs that we breed. If any "PET" owner (of which I am one) wants to breed then they need to at least perform certain minimum health testing and training. otherwise don't breed, we have enough problems Morgan and His Angels Precious, OFA Princess, CGC, TDI, GSDCA Health Award "RAW" fed, No Vaccinations --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: From Puppies To Stud Service To: genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx, "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 2:04 PM Interesting post Amy, but I think it's premature to assume that Pet People are the reason that so many GSDs are in pet shelters.....and I hope the guy does find a male to breed to his female no matter how good or bad she is ( who decides that anyway)....most responsible ( define responsible) breeders don't breed to just any dog, and that's great...but when you prevent pet folks from breeding...the day will come soon that folks will prevent you from breeding too.....homeless pets are a big problem...wish I knew the answer to solving it...Ed Hill --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] From Puppies To Stud Service To: "shepherd, german" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 9:08 AM Okay...so I have an add in the paper for my puppies right. A man calls me a little while ago. I tell him about the puppies and ask him if he is looking for a male or female and then I am going to proceed with my list of questions to try and determine if he is a suitable home or not. He then says..I do not want a puppy. I am looking for a male to breed my female with who is in heat right now. He has no idea what day she is on, she is mostly tan and he has no testing done. Are we having fun yet??? I then proceed to explain to him that I will not let anyone breed to my male without the proper testing. I also let him know about all the GSD in the shelters because of pet people who think that their dogs should have puppies. I also tell him that there is no market for GSD puppies right no. Then I politely turned him down. I am certain that he will call every add in the Detroit News until he wants a male. 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