On Oct 11, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Kathy Tank wrote: Kathy, I am glad to read your post. IMO, you are "teaching" pet people who want to breed Missy for whatever reason. Most pet people are amazed when they learn the proper way to bring up puppies and all the not so great things that can happen whelping the puppies. Not to speak of the time involved socializing little babies. Most pet people are clueless about health clearances and don't want to spend the extra $$$ at the vet's to get those clearances. And then, some of the "pet people" are nothing more than puppy mills. Does anyone want to see their Ch. stud dog's name on some puppy mill's site, in the pedigree? Think about it, it will be there if you allow your Ch. to be bred to just any bitch that comes along. If anything, stud dog owners should see the health clearance certificates (and be willing to share those of their stud dog), and see the pedigree. If the bitch is Jill out of Jack, the stud dog owner may want to warn the bitch owner that nothing of type will come of the breeding. Perhaps the owner would like to purchase a quality bitch before considering becoming a breeder. Joining the local GSD club would also be good idea to get some education. And, hopefully, there is good education on the GSDCA website. Birgit Rhoads Woodland Hudson Oh wdlnd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.woodlandpwc.com Just when I was getting used to yesterday, along came today. > Hi Gang, > We get varying calls all the time, from wanting a "fully trained" 8 > week old > puppy, lol. , to yes, wanting to breed a bitch to one of the three > Ch. males > available here. > We NEVER allow a bitch on the property without myco/brucellosis > paperwork in > my hand. Not worth it. > When you explain it to new bitch owners, they usually don't even > realize > there are such things as canine STDs. when you further explain that > a bitch > can render a male sterile, or lose an entire litter with some of these > problems, they do seem to understand entirely. > Often the people that want to do the breeding have NO idea what it > entails > to raise a litter, much less the > expense and time of testing , etc. I try to explain to them very > politely > the pro's and cons...mostly cons, and generally they do "get it". > Most are > simply uniformed and assume "princess" will whelp the litter under > the ole > oak tree and raise it and they sell the puppies for big bucks. They > don't > realize there is nearly ALWAYS a sudden, large expense with the > litter, that > you never saw coming. > They don't realize that "princess" may need a c-section, or a trip > to an ER > vet on a Sunday in the rain at 2 am . > Nearly all, re-think the position and decide maybe a puppy instead > is a good > idea. > I would rather try to keep a new person interested, but educated. I > found > out long ago, that if a breeder or stud owner insults someone , they > just go > somewhere else. > I prefer to work with them, to see if we can get them off to a good > solid > start, rather than to write them off, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. Of course > we all > know that there are people that simply will not > listen to another idea, or be taught. (sigh) I have seen this > with rank > newcomers and seasoned owners/exhibitors. > > Kathy > http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com > PUP-DATED: OCT 5, 2009 > Home of: > > CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs > CH. Victory's Leviathan > CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle > > "En Victoria , Veritas" > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================