[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba Invitational 2009 in Long Beach, Calif.
- From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: DaList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:10:23 -0800 (PST)
That's easily said -- sort of like saying the same thing to the National
agility/obedience performance people - suck it up, we were comfortable so you
should be able to work, prepare and wait anywhere. Conformation folks need dry
weather controlled conditions because they groom more? Really?? Everyone else
should just suck it up????
This was an invitational for the top performing dogs in the country. There were
exhibitors and dogs in wet conditions. There were not enough porta potties and
while it is nice to have them far enough away on a hot day so you can breathe,
it is not so nice to have to get soaked before going into the ring for your
chance to compete for national honors against the top dogs in your venue. It is
not a distraction training takes care of - it is something that convinces
people they are not wanted. It costs these folks just as much to participate as
the other competitors. The chances of injury are far higher when your dogs are
jumping onto wet floors and are cold and the same is true for people. But just
suck it up because you showed under some bad conditions at some local event?
Remember the dog who was injured because of the bad conditions at the Ft
Collins national agility ring? (moved outside because someone did not get mats)
Suck it up. Replace the injured
dog. But send in your entry fees.
Be fair to these people and at least consider what happens should performance
people decide to play in some other playground. There are lots of performance
oriented groups out there who do take care of their exhibitors and where the
performance folks are not considered 2nd class citizens and just homes for dogs
that someone does not consider "good enough" for the important sport of
conformation. If you want the sport of dog showing to continue, I strongly
suggest you consider the performance folks and the amount of entries they
provide. They certainly are keeping our club alive and well funded by providing
finances and hard working members. Maybe your club does fine with without
obedience/agility/rally/herding/tracking/etc, but I know ours would not.
Again - THIS WAS A NATIONAL EVENT - and they paid the same. We can't control
the weather but we can prepare well. It was poor planning and I suspect it will
cost the AKC entries in the future. And that will hurt all of us.
Ruth
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From: "grnram415@xxxxxxx" <grnram415@xxxxxxx>
To: vsabiab@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 1:37:49 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba Invitational
2009 in Long Beach, Calif.
I watched the video and found it quite amusing. It seems the videographer was
needing a cocktail more than anything. This may sound harsh, but the fact is
that any show in SoCal during the winter is a crapshoot. Most are held indoors
for conformation dogs due to the grooming involved. However, ALL obedience and
agility are held outdoors on grass, with better footing and the ability to keep
the rings isolated and away from the peeing, pooping inconsiderate conformation
dogs.
That said, look at Palm Springs last year with the wind and torn down tents,
rings and total disaster. Or how about San Diego five years ago when the show
was canceled due to rain and the venue taken away due to the damage caused by
the RV's and dog folks trying to get out of there. Yep, we have rain and
flooding here. But, we don't have outdoor shows in -20 degree weather, in snow
and sleet. There is no way to know what is going to happen when you set the
date. And, most agility/obedience people here prefer grass to fake turf. We
have all shown in rain, blazing heat and other inclement weather.
My point is this, performance dogs should be able to work anywhere and be
immune to distractions. That is what we train them for. During the herding
demo, the dogs were all out in the rain, oblivious to the conditions and doing
their job. So, should Eukanuba baby the performance dogs who are supposed to
perform, regardless? The only issue I saw, and it may not be true, is that the
agility people weren't granted access to the rest of the venue. That is wrong.
Sorry if I don't find the issues to be as bad as represented. Suck it up,
protect your dogs and get on with it. We've all been there, done that!
Laura
-----Original Message-----
From: vsabiab@xxxxxxx
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, Dec 18, 2009 5:37 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba Invitational 2009 in
Long Beach, Calif.
Has anyone received this e-mail and watched this video?
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his is a factual presentation of how the agility competitors were treated
y AKC at its most prestigious event.
am posting this because it is very important to all agility exhibitors
nd everyone who deals with the AKC in anyway (conformation, obedience,
tc.)
am hoping people who have influence with the AKC will use their contacts
o voice a serious complaint about the way agility exhibitors and their
ogs were treated at the AKC / Eukanuba Invitational, held last week in Long
each, California.
hen you watch the short video you will understand. It is not easy to
atch, however, as conditions were so deplorable.
or those of you who are not familiar with the AKC Invitational - it it a
restigious competition for all dog venues. Usually only champions with a
ertain number of points are invited. For agility, only the top five dogs
n each breed are invited.
gility was treated exactly the same as obedience and conformation in
006.
he difference is this year is the 125th Anniversary of the AKC. The
nvitational was opened up to a larger number of conformation entries.
o make room for the additional conformation entries, the agility
xhibitors were moved to the parking lot and put in tents. 500 and more
gility
xhibitors had to share 7 porta potties for the entire weekend. When they
ried to enter the convention center, they were turned away.
have never seen conditions anywhere this horrible at any agility trial I
ave ever attended. The video makes me want to cry when I imagine taking
ny of my beloved dogs to this place.
also want to add that this particular event is more costly than the
ormal agility trial. It is in Long Beach, California, meaning additional
ravel and hotel expenses. No AKC titles or points are given at the
nvitational. One goes because it is an honor just to qualify.
nother important point is that agility is a huge money making event for
he AKC. Most of the other dog venues lose money for the AKC. Agility
akes money and makes a lot of it. I have included the link below to the AKC
eb site that gives agility statistics. The AKC is looking to agility as
he means to keep them from going bankrupt. That makes this kind of
reatment even more incomprehensible.
ust watching the conditions should be appalling to EVERY dog lover,
hether the interest is conformation, obedience, agility, or any other kind of
vent. NO DOG should be treated like this.
he 125th Anniversary of the AKC could not have been celebrated in a more
umiliating and pathetic way.
f anyone has contacts for the AKC and Eukanuba they would care to post or
-mail, I would appreciate the opportunity to use them.
hank you,
ohn David and Connie Zieba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXk1e0NgUGc_
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXk1e0NgUGc)
http://www.YouTube. com/watch? vs.=AXk1e0NgUGc_ (http://www.YouTube.
om/watch? vs.=AXk1e0NgUGc)
Vicki
on Charisma German Shepherds
ww.voncharismags.com
y sunshine does not come from the skies,
t comes from the love in my dogs eyes.
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