[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba Invitational 2009 in Long Beach, Calif.

  • From: "Emilie" <windvane@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>, "DaList" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 16:57:43 -0800

RIGHT ON RUTH? MY DOG DESERVES THE SAME TREATMENT AS A CONFORMATION DOG! AS 
HE PAYS THE SAME ENTRY FEE!
EMILIE   (WHO IS STILL RECOVERING FROM THE  NATIONAL TEMPERAMENT TEST AND 
HERDING INSTINCT TEST)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ruth Scheubler" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "DaList" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba Invitational 
2009 in Long Beach, Calif.


That's easily said -- sort of like saying the same thing to the National 
agility/obedience performance people - suck it up, we were comfortable so 
you should be able to work, prepare and wait anywhere. Conformation folks 
need dry weather controlled conditions because they groom more? Really?? 
Everyone else should just suck it up????
This was an invitational for the top performing dogs in the country. There 
were exhibitors and dogs in wet conditions. There were not enough porta 
potties and while it is nice to have them far enough away on a hot day so 
you can breathe, it is not so nice to have to get soaked before going into 
the ring for your chance to compete for national honors against the top dogs 
in your venue. It is not a distraction training takes care of - it is 
something that convinces people they are not wanted. It costs these folks 
just as much to participate as the other competitors. The chances of injury 
are far higher when your dogs are jumping onto wet floors and are cold and 
the same is true for people. But just suck it up because you showed under 
some bad conditions at some local event? Remember the dog who was injured 
because of the bad conditions at the Ft Collins national agility ring? 
(moved outside because someone did not get mats)  Suck it up. Replace the 
injured
 dog. But send in your entry fees.

Be fair to these people and at least consider what happens should 
performance people decide to play in some other playground. There are lots 
of performance oriented groups out there who do take care of their 
exhibitors and where the performance folks are not considered 2nd class 
citizens and just homes for dogs that someone does not consider "good 
enough" for the important sport of conformation. If you want the sport of 
dog showing to continue, I strongly suggest you consider the performance 
folks and the amount of entries they provide. They certainly are keeping our 
club alive and well funded by providing finances and hard working members. 
Maybe your club does fine with without 
obedience/agility/rally/herding/tracking/etc, but I know ours would not.

Again - THIS WAS A NATIONAL EVENT - and they paid the same. We can't control 
the weather but we can prepare well. It was poor planning and I suspect it 
will cost the AKC entries in the future. And that will hurt all of us.

Ruth




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From: "grnram415@xxxxxxx" <grnram415@xxxxxxx>
To: vsabiab@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 1:37:49 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Factual presentation AKC / Eukanuba  Invitational 
2009 in Long Beach, Calif.

I watched the video and found it quite amusing.  It seems the videographer 
was needing a cocktail more than anything.  This may sound harsh, but the 
fact is that any show in SoCal during the winter is a crapshoot.  Most are 
held indoors for conformation dogs due to the grooming involved.  However, 
ALL obedience and agility are held outdoors on grass, with better footing 
and the ability to keep the rings isolated and away from the peeing, pooping 
inconsiderate conformation dogs.

That said, look at Palm Springs last year with the wind and torn down tents, 
rings and total disaster.  Or how about San Diego five years ago when the 
show was canceled due to rain and the venue taken away due to the damage 
caused by the RV's and dog folks trying to get out of there.  Yep, we have 
rain and flooding here.  But, we don't have outdoor shows in -20 degree 
weather, in snow and sleet.  There is no way to know what is going to happen 
when you set the date.  And, most agility/obedience people here prefer grass 
to fake turf.  We have all shown in rain, blazing heat and other inclement 
weather.

My point is this, performance dogs should be able to work anywhere and be 
immune to distractions.  That is what we train them for.  During the herding 
demo, the dogs were all out in the rain, oblivious to the conditions and 
doing their job.  So, should Eukanuba baby the performance dogs who are 
supposed to perform, regardless?  The only issue I saw, and it may not be 
true, is that the agility people weren't granted access to the rest of the 
venue.  That is wrong.

Sorry if I don't find the issues to be as bad as represented.  Suck it up, 
protect your dogs and get on with it.  We've all been there, done that!

Laura





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