This is the problem with the nastiness that has infested the List over the past year. The infighting and insults are not just healthy disagreements or "fighting among ourselves", but are being taken outside the list to hurt others personally in the effort to "get the last word". Innocent people are getting hurt, such as the owner of the lovely National Winner's Bitch, and attacks on judges, board members, club officers, etc, have been launched. This is not love of the breed - this is just pure mean and cruel. Our club, breed, base of good judges, and many friendships are being hurt. The List is such a great tool for good in information sharing, honest discussions and debates, etc. But sadly it is being used as a weapon for some members with personal vendettas or grudges; as well as some who think they can advance their own ambitions by destroying anyone they think may be ahead of them. I really wish the list rules against personal attacks had been inforced over the past year :-( Okay, off my soap box - I have dog runs to clean. Janice Buchanan In a message dated 10/4/2007 10:17:20 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Amazing, one of the fall outs is the Winners Bitch from the National. I d= o not personally know the owner, I do remember her crying when she won The = National. So gracious when people said congrats, seemed to love her dog. M= y booking a filler caused the removal of her BIM or BOM. I just knew the 4= month rule. I heard a judge whom I battled with on the list sent a letter= to complain a month ago. .. after the Fut/Mat wins in April. I thought no= thing of it, the 4 month rule was not broken. Janice Buchanan Wasatch-Gold German Shepherds _http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/_ (http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/) "If our dogs were smarter, they could tell us what they were thinking. If we were smarter, they wouldn't need to." ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================