Champion Asgard's Dragonslayer had an UAP. He never limped. It seems the process was fused with cartilage and so it was solid. But, under x-ray it showed it was not united. He finished, and never limped a day in his life. I was in this sport before we x-rayed elbows. When we started to do that we found a number of UAP that I believe would never have been discovered were they not x-rayed. A number of dogs did limp on the front and usually had a problem. But, I believe a large number had UAP, and since they didn't limp, they were never x-rayed. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 12/28/2007 5:26:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, TISHW@xxxxxxx writes: I did have one who didn't show any signs, was being worked in open and doing the jumps, and when I had her x-rayed at about 3 showed terrible elbows. I couldn't believe it as I had never had one that didn't limp. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================