You have a good point. I have some on kibble and some on raw. I have found out a couple things. Kibble tends to stick in the teeth and develop HARD tarter. Raw does not, but they still develop tarter. The difference is that I can scrape the teeth of the raw dogs very easily. The kibble dogs are given raw shank and knuckle bones every week. This seems to help reduce the tarter on their theeth. The only dog who has had to have veterinary teeth cleaning is my daughter's Yorkie. Little dogs seem to have tooth problems. I put her on raw a year ago and her teeth look pretty darn good. Her last cleaning was almost 3 yrs ago after having to be cleaned every 6-8mos. Yes, I scrape her teeth too. I recently went to a seminar with a reknowned holistic vet. She isn't totally into raw. However, her pyramid is raw first, cooked food next, wet food (canned) third and kibble as a last resort. She says that small, hard kibble is better than large, soft kibble for any dog. She doesn't name brands. She also says that tarter and plaque are genetic. Some lines have it and some don't. She sees it more common in small dogs but sees some serious cases in large dogs as well. She believes that owners should do the best they can within their budget, knowing that tooth cleaning involves sedation and expense. She advises folks to give raw bones whenever possible and to brush and scrape teeth to avoid future problems. I think she's on to something :-) Laura -----Original Message----- From: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 10:44 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Does dry dog food help keep a dog's teeth "sparkling" white In MHO, it is not the raw or the dry food...but the RAW BONES that do the rick...I have fed my GSDs dry kibble (ONLY Biljac) for over thirty ears...I have never had to clean teeth EVER...from the youngest to the ones hat re way on up there like over 13 yrs...the teeth are pearly white, the gums re clean, no tarter or scaly build up ever.....but it is not the food, it s because I give each one a raw marrow bone approx 2-3 inches in length at least a couple of times per week...and that is my story and I am sticking o it.. auline Moon - _www.ropajagsd.com_ (http://www.ropajagsd.com/) opaja German Shepherds: Member: GSDCAmercia & GSDCAtlanta - BIS BISS CH opaja's Chateau Beaujolais OFA HIC; BISS CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaulieu OFA IC; Our future: CH. Ropaja's Je Suis Fleur De Lis; Ropaja's Je Suis abrielle. =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================