perfectly said! * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : DEXTER, aka BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, DM normal JACKIE, aka Kaleef's Expensive Date, HT (major pointed) and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 1/18/2012 2:27:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: They definitely are hard questions for I never want anyone to think I am calling anyone a liar. I would never do that. I just know that regardless something somewhere is wrong. It can be quite possible that his Dam got a false result or which would be even better that Gehren got a false result. I can hope on that one lol Once I get a copy of the vet report for his Dam I can send that and another set of swabs from Gehren and try again. I definitely am going to continue to get an answer especially since that is why I sent the tests in the first place. I by no means though am just sitting here in complete denial that he could be at risk cause I know that it is quite possible but until I get an answer to how he can be at risk with a clear parent I will not be satisfied for that will totally contradict all that has been stated about the DM tests. This is definitely a test still in progress and we have to all do what we can to help further the research. Tammy Paris-Smith www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx [mailto:InquestGSD@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:07 AM To: paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx; shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: DM TESTING dont get frustrated, you are asking the hard question and deserve the answers also, consider the possibility that the dam and sire owners were given the wrong information and are as lost as you are..... as you well put it, this is the kind of situation that challenges these labs and their procedures, and you are totally doing the right thing by insisting on an answer. * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : DEXTER, aka BISS 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, DM normal JACKIE, aka Kaleef's Expensive Date, HT (major pointed) and the Poodle Patrol, Bunny, Huckleberry and Doc Holliday In a message dated 1/18/2012 1:54:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I am awaiting on getting the results of the Dam from her breeder for I will definitely ask them about retesting because if she is clear there should be no reason my male is at risk. It is situations like this that makes doing these tests important because it helps with trying to determine the validity of the tests. I know that they did not use OFA for their test that is why not on the OFA database she was tested at the vets office and they sent it out for her and called with results when they came back in. I am definitely getting beyond frustrated for none of this is panning out. Tammy Paris-Smith www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MORGAN LEWIS Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:24 AM To: gsd showlist Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] DM TESTING I must be losing my mind. There is another possibility. a false "POSITIVE" on your dog. If you have the lab results on the bitch, send a copy to the lab along with a copy of your results. They ought to retest free!! Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3 "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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