Last summer I ran into a couple who had some Bouviers at PetSmart. They were bragging about showing their dogs (I didn't recognize them from the local shows) and I mentioned something about GSD's being in the same Group. They looked at me in disbelief and wanted to know when GSD's were put in the Herding group. I told them they were one of the original breeds and they refused to believe me. Either they weren't ever around for group, or they weren't paying attention, LOL! Of course, the other possibility is that they never "showed" their dogs at an actual dog show - we have a number of those type of breeders around here <G>. Janice In a message dated 8/29/2007 7:59:59 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: A couple of days ago, someone wrote that Corgi's were originally classed as terriers. As a Cardigan Corgi fanatic, I am curious where you found this history at? I had never read that, and so I went looking for it and could not find it. I talked to Pat Santi a long time icon in the Cardi breed and asked her if she had ever known that. Her answer was, "originally the corgi's were classified as "working " dogs and the pembroke variety is thought to contain some spitz or maybe terrier in its ancestry, but she was never aware of them being spared or considered terriers, even in England". To keep this GSD related...my GSD's will lay on the floor, so they are low enough to play with the Corgis. Sue T Janice Buchanan Wasatch-Gold German Shepherds _http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/_ (http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/) "If our dogs were smarter, they could tell us what they were thinking. If we were smarter, they wouldn't need to." ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================