[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Buy from a breeder/ L A new law

  • From: "Arcturus" <Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "thelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:52:49 -0400

HI Deb and Stormy,
  I do agree with you on the invasion of privacy.  I wouldn't like that either, 
although here in Pa. we have kennel licensing laws and we are inspected twice 
yearly. This really isn't a problem at all. It takes about 10 minutes and he's 
gone.  I guess what scares me, and I realize few people get to see what I see, 
is how big these puppy mills are getting. I live in Lancaster County where the 
Amish and Mennonite farmers have taken to  dog breeding with a vengeance.  You 
can't tell anymore what is going in...if its a big chicken house or a dog 
breeding operation. These buildings are easily $100,000 buildings with state of 
the art lighting and ventilation systems.  Where does an Amishman get that kind 
of money?  Not from himself or the Amish Church,  but from bigger corporations 
such as the Hunte company.  They hold hundreds of dogs!  The dealers come in 
with air-conditioned tractor trailers and pick up puppys.  When things are 
slow, the Amish try and sell locally because the dealers won't pick up what 
they don't need.  I don't know what happens to the pups that are no longer cute 
and unsaleable,  but as a groomer I see the ones they do sell.  Want a 35 lb 
Bichon?  Howabout a Shih Tzu who's lower jaw is a half inch longer than her top 
jaw and she can't close her mouth.  A poodle who has such a poor hair coat it 
hangs down like a Maltese  ( who knows, maybe it is half maltese),  a cocker 
who has one ear attached higher to its head than the other one  ( actually,  I 
see quite a few like this) and the list goes on... meanwhile the amount of dogs 
living in a 2' x 2' cage grows, and while we sit back and don't address the 
situation the animal rights groups do.  They are the ones reaching the public's 
ear. They aren't telling people to go to a reputable breeder.  I think we 
better wake up and look why the AKC is contracting to petstores. Maybe they 
feel its already to late for us.
   I'ld like to point out that no where have I read that LA is "judging whether 
you can breed or not".  They have stated they are not after the purebred 
fanciers. IF you have shown your dog in the last year, if its titled, or if its 
a police service dog, or assistance dog it does not need to be neutered.  Does 
that mean you can't breed Labradoodles or multi-poos ? Probably.  If you want 
to develop a new breed than I would guess you have to move, because they don't 
want you dumping your experiments in the local pound. On the other hand,  if 
you belong to a rare breed group and own purebred rare breed(s) and can show 
them you are active in the club and show your dogs in some sort of venue then 
you are okay.  What is wrong with communicating and education about what you 
are doing?  Again,  JMO,  SueT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx 
  To: Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Buy from a breeder/ L A new law

  In a message dated 9/13/2006 2:06:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
    So, that just means the every puppy miller want-a -be,  or the people who 
want to breed the dog to show the kids the miracle of life cannot do it.  What 
is the problem with that?  Wouldn't that eliminate the pet store puppies?  
Where are they going to get them if not from the puppy mills?  Won't that put 
the dog breeding business back in the hands of the true fanciers?  Either that 
or its going to fill up our classes and give handlers a boom like they've never 
seen <G>!! Seriously, the LA commissioners were quoted as saying they are not 
trying to hurt
      the purebred dog people, they just want to eliminate the casually bred 
dogs that fill up the pound. JMO
  Sue, to a point I do agree with you.  This is why my pet puppies are sold on 
a spay and neuter contract.  I have lost some sales over that but I don't care, 
I don't want my babies out there getting bred to death by people who haven't a 
clue.  

  The concern is, there are way to many ways around the law and all it does is 
invade everyone privacy.  Please read everything there is a lot more to the 
Law, that truly is not good. 

  I have already had many inquiries about joining our Club in California.  
People entering dogs at shows so they don't have to neuter them...  Yes, good 
for handlers, club memberships maybe but still "invasion of privacy".  That 
part is absolutely no good.

  JMO

  Deb
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