[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders

  • From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:38:53 -0800 (PST)

a binding contract simply means everyone lives up to the WRITTEN terms of the 
contract, its makes no difference what the contract says ( where is Evan when 
we need him)...as long as there is consideration ( a legal term) on each 
side...what ever both parties agree to they can also agree to binding 
arbitration through the GSDCA Ethic's committee...we need to police ourselves 
better...all I am really saying is live up to the terms of your contract...and 
please have one...Ed
<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:   Ed...Trust me on this..no matter who thin 
the pancake it has two sides.
Tell me how you can come up with a binding contract when the buyer sends an
agent to select his puppy? To me..this absolves the breeders of any
responsibility. A contract is only as good as the money you want to spend
on attorneys to enforce it. Before you sent a deposit check to the below
..the dog should have been x-rayed first..and copies of the films sent to a
vet of your choice for re-evaluation. then the money transacts. When I pre
-Xray before a sale..if the dog x-rays clear..the buyers pays for the
films..if the dog doesn't x-ray..I pay for the films If the buyer fails to
come through after I have spent the money and found the dog to x-ray
clear..so what.that is to my benefit and to the benefit of a future buyer.I
do STRESS, to prospective buyers that these are pre-lim evaluations and
there is still an element of risk involved with OFA when the dog turns two.
Since we don't breed frequently, if I owe someone a replacement, it might
take awhile. I don't want to replace a dog with another that won't turn
out..and as I have stated, it may take awhile to get a good one.Christine


> [Original Message]
> From: Edwin Hill 
> To: 
; freelist 
> Date: 12/22/2006 7:46:09 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Breeders
>
> I applaud you sir!...and It is my opinion that the Ethics committee is a
"paper tiger"...and I mean no disrespect to any one involved...It took me
almost three months to get back a 1,500 dollar deposit on a bitch that I
never took possession of because of a failed hip ex-ray, and I am both fair
and patient, but if I believe you are unethical and a cheat...I will come
after you...my wife says I remind her of Sony in the first Godfather
movie...we should have binding arbitration when there is a contract
involved...and if the party at fault fails to abide, then that person
should be removed from this club...very simple...Ed Hill
> alfredo pumariega 
wrote: I was recently taken for $
2,500 by one of these 'Big time breeders'. I bought a show puppy bitch with
"Super Star Potential". It turned out to be pet quality. The breeder,
member of the Breeders Code, did not provide me with a contract in
indisputable violation of the code. Now that breeder does not want to
refund my money. There is no doubt that ALL these breeders care about is
$$$$$$$$$$$$. They are killing the sport. And we all need to take issue
with it. I am preparing a formal complaint for the GSDCA now as we speak.
Lew has promised to write an article on next month's Review about the
problem.
> These selfish breeders get away with it because the GSDCA 's General
Ethics Committee is not effective. More people need to write board members
asking the club to monitor such unethical breeders. Get as many people to
write to the board in support of expelling members of the Breeder's Code
that violate its rules.
>
> Write to me privately.............
>
> Alfredo Pumariega
> Miami, FL.
>
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