[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bracket Formula

  • From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:15:32 -0700

Strongly disagree, the first 3 generations are most important, as often animals 
produce traits like their grandparents and not the immediate parents. People 
who do protection work are not as interested in preserving structural traits 
that can be lost in one misstep breeding. If it were truly this simple as your 
"mentor" states then an outstanding dog, bred to an outstanding bitch would 
always yield outstanding progeny, I think we all know this is not the case. On 
one hand we have the "oversimplification" of dog breeding, which was vocalized 
by your mentor and which usually doesn't produce desired results, and on the 
other hand we have those who may know the top winners, but lack the study 
habits or simply don't have the knack to know the difference between "winners" 
and producers". The later breeders, if you want to call them that are easily 
duped by big win records beaucoup progeny being shown, yet they pay very little 
attention to the phenotype of the
 progeny, they simply see numbers, and numbers in their minds equal "producers. 
Back when I started in the breed, (boy do I sound old) we studied pedigrees, we 
ferreted out who the real producers were, and we paid attention to the progeny 
phenotype. I didn't have a mentor, so I had to rely on my powers of observation 
and studying bloodlines, and what lines seem to work well together. so what I 
state above is not conjecture, but actual breeding principles that we applied 
in our own breeding program. I think this principles served us pretty well! 
Christine
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On Wed, 7/23/14, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bracket Formula
 To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2014, 7:44 PM
 
 My mentor in protection
 dogs once told me that the most important dogs in a
 puppy's pedigree are the dam and the
 sire!  Duh!  Simple but true
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 From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 To: freelist
 Sent: July 23,
 2014 at 5:41 PM
 Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ]
 Bracket Formula
 
 Michelle
 Graham _vicisheps@charter.net_
 (mailto:vicisheps@xxxxxxxxxxx) 
 
 writes;
 HI...OK I am
 thinking about doing a breeding based on Bracket  
 Formula...however it would be going twice the
 2/3 formula...both on  
 bitch side and on
 sires...is that too close &/or would I be defeating 
 
 the purpose of doing it in the first
 place...just curious if anyone had  
 done
 it before and would do it again.
 Thanks
 Michelle
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 I answer;
 The things you have
 to remember about these formulas is that they are  a 
 tool for the toolchest not the answer to
 everything.  And that it is  
 important
 you use these formulas on dogs known to you for maximum 
 success.
 
 One formula I use
 is the X Chromosome factor or Motherlines.  I am  very 
 happy so far using this as a good tool.
 There is a lot more to it but If you are
 interested here is a starter  
 course on
 the use of motherlines.  
 http://www.westwindgsps.com/motherlines.htm
 
 Lissa
 soilentgrn@xxxxxxx
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