Perhaps we need to bring back in the Whites as Bracket did. After all, they were a major part in his breeding program. A good example is Chimney Sweep. The past is often good to recognize, but I think Lloyd would reconsider with the quality of the dogs we have today. Take your best bitch and realize her shortcomings. Then find the best male, and consider what his background and problems are. When you have done that, breed the best you can to the best you can find. That is "Evan's Rule" and it should work for you. Another great rule, and the one I always use is, "Ask Tedi". You can't go wrong with that. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan In a message dated 7/25/2014 9:44:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: BUT, he did this so he could develop and prove his theory. We don't need to do this today as he did the work for us. Now we simply need to attempt to implement what he achieved. Its like the theory of relativity, its already been done and proven, you don't need to keep attempting to create the theory, you just need to employ it, Einstein already did the hard work! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================