Isn't it always better to have a bigger gene pool than a smaller? White is the third most registered color. Several GSD judges/breeders have told us our dogs have maintained an appropriate front shoulder which is a problem for some of the showlines. I also have a B&T bitch from a white that is an AKC and Can CH. She was a big "use" to me :) Donna Beadle On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:08 PM, "rockannand" <rockannand@xxxxxxx> wrote: What use is the white to the sable, b/t, bi and black Breeder? We'd need to have color divisions inserted into our Standard to safe guard us from Pandas and Zebras? Lol Ya never know.... Kate -------Original Message------- From: Pharaohs Revenge Date: 08/01/11 09:39:20 To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][ SHOWGSD-L ] Big Change in Philadelphia One thing you all should remember is that not all white GSD people want to separate into a new breed. There are more white GSD folks that would prefer keeping the dog a GSD vs. separating, both sides did present their views at the meeting. Put yourselves in the shoes of the white owners. If the Board/Club of your breed was telling you that a coat color that you love and that helped create the breed (Horand's grandsire was white) and once was able to show in the AKC conformation ring as a GSD (up until the 1960s) and DNA can prove is a GSD can now be another breed. How would you feel? There are so many reasons why separating the dog is not the right choice: alienating members, decline in registrations for the GSD breed, DNA, genetic diversity, setting a precedence for other DQs and the list goes on. The GSDCA is there to protect the breed, the whole breed, regardless of personal opinion and as a GSDCA member, I felt failed by the board yesterday regarding the breed I love. I keep on hearing, "Oh but AKC will decline it." Pawning it off on the AKC to make the decision is cowardly, stand up for your breed and do what's right for it, don't make another organization make that decision for you. Donna ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== <04_puppy_sticky_note_en.gif> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================