If the one person comes to the National every year with her Champion but CHOOSES not to show them because they win at All Breeds...... HOW did the Parent Club exclude her to make a decision to not show at the National??? Isn't Jim Moses on our Board of Directors?? Has ANYONE won more than Jimmy Moses at All Breeds AND our National?? WHERE is the exclusion or division? Some CHOOSE All Breeds only.....some CHOOSE Specialties only....some CHOOSE both. NO way this can be blamed on our Parent Club excluding anyone for their own choices. The German Shepherd Dog Of America has specific Conformation titles that are won mostly within the GSD Breed at the German Shepherd Dog NATIONAL in order to qualify for the Parade Of Greats along with some other specific higher titles. This has been in place for many years. These are not necessarily recognized by other AKC venues either!! It works both ways. <G> i.e. R.O.M., A.O.E., Select, Select Excellent, Grand Victor, Grand Victrix and higher degrees of Performance titles also.......etc. ( please don't hang me on missing some details.... ) <G> The Parent Club is not responsible for our choices ....nor the wins we do or do not have. They just offer us opportunities to earn titles at a higher level that was accepted and put in place years ago IF our dogs earn them and qualify......IF we choose to......we can enter them in the Parade of Greats. I don't see any 'exclusion' to any of this so much as encouraging participation and spending the time working & competing with your dog more ...or breeding and competing at a higher National level. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally Hayden To: ELG440@xxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: All animals are equal Evan It is not a matter of all dogs being equal it is a matter of all club members owners of these dogs being equal. There is a large group of parent club members who only show at all breed show who have wonderful winning dogs who do feel disenfranchised. May be not in your area but in many other areas There are also a lot of all breed people who do not belong to the pc because they don't feel welcome. Sure seems to me that with the show situation the way it is these people would be a valuable asset Sallywww.embroiderybysally.orgGerman Shepherds & Cardigan Corgis , > sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx writes: > I would think the parent club activities of a breed should be for all of > the dogs and not just some them. There are many all breed people who are > very active and yet feel excluded by the PC ************************************************************> > > That just amazes me. I respect Sally, as she knows, but why should the > GSDCA cater to everyone? The all-breed shows, don't cater to the dogs with > parent club titles. > > We don't have a national for the poodle people. We don't allow any Goldens > to be shown in our confirmation ring. > > We do allow any registered German shepherd to be shown in conformation so > long as they don't have a disqualifying fault. > > Then we, the GSDCA, set some special events and awards to honor those who > qualify. If you want to eliminate any extra awards or honors, talk to the > board about it. We could get rid of Select, AOEs, Select Excellents, The > Parade of Greats, ROMs, and even Juniors. > > Then all dogs would indeed be equal. > > Is that what we want? Maybe so. Then all dogs could be entered and there > would be no special events to exclude those who do not qualify. > > Evan Ginsburg > Asgard German Shepherds > http://www.asgardgsd.com/ > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================