"We HAVE"??? NO we don't...BECAUSE OF OUR BREED STANDARD!!! We cannot Legislate Honesty....only maintain the Breed Standard by keeping it intact. THAT'S MY POINT in all this!!!!! We must maintain our restrictions on color...or down the road someone will begin the process of making Panda's acceptable..because after all...they have the same DNA and one day, one may have a trainer that excels in Herding or Obedience work .....or their "NUMBERS" are increasing for membership and entries! SAME LOGIC!!! PLEASE....people....understand the point in this. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com When you mention desired colors as this color was never in the GSD Breed. Melisa Smith K9-Pines ********************************************** http://www.k9-pines.com/germanshepherds_Piebald.html We have the Panda already and now the Piebald which should be of concern. Theresa ************************************** From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Again...hopefully last time.... My point has always been that whites have never been a desired color in the Breed. It finally became a DQ to avoid it being a part of the Breed. I have never argued about them being inferior nor having health issues because of their white color. When I bring up the other Breeds it is BECAUSE we recognize them by their appearance and almost ALL Breeds always have pretty much specific color or markings that is easily recognizable as that particular Breed...and most Standards have colors that are not and have never been acceptable. The general Public knows that. It "generally" starts with color and coats...... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================