In a message dated 8/25/2005 8:17:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, plushpuppyohio@xxxxxxxxx writes: Regardless, the Illustrated Standard is a tool for people to understand what our dogs should be, Sean I would agree with you that the IS is an "example" it can be a "tool" to help people understand the structure visually of what the standard for our breed should be....the topic as I have followed it, as been at times misconstrued to mean one would breed based on an old or new illustrated standard. Evan as I see it you are missing the point and value perhaps of the simple value of an IS as a "tool". A tool is just that, a visual tool in this case, not a road map for a breeding program. Just my thoughts. Thanks Steven Segerwinds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================