[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A question for and about judges

  • From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:11:43 -0800 (PST)

       Kathy (others, too, ) have have made valid points. In our breed
  we have a unique situation not found in any other breed. That is that we
  have soooooo many specialty judges.  It would be next to impossible to
  rule that one not show to a judge who owns a sire or a dam (or co-owns)
  of an entry.  Would you not show to ______ because you have a son of his GV.?
  That would be ludicrous.  With all the judges we have out there, we're just
  obligated to be honest; it simply boils down to that.  Actually, the judge is
  in complete charge.  I learned a hundred or so years ago from Lang Scarda
  simply not to judge in the area where you live and  have so many friends
  of many years.  Works for me and I still have most of the friends. LOL.
                         Carolyn
Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:  I think this is a very interesting 
conversation.  Does one enter a dog/bitch
under the stud dog owner,( or breeder of the sire) and worry about
perception/appearance...or if in not entering would "you" risk offending the
stud dog owner /judge? Could such a decision to entry a progeny under a
given stud's owner, backfire?
  It is not against AKC rules.   However, if the said  progeny were put up
by the judge, and was clearly the best dog or bitch on the day...then what
fallout could the judge or owner of the entry face from others? None , I
would hope.
   I think it has to be left up to the individual judges , as to how they
would handle it.   Judges that have owned/bred popular stud dogs, might well
lose a substantial part of their entries , if they ruled out progeny.   Just
a thought.  A complicated question with no clear answers.  Whatever happens,
it shouid be the best dog/ bitch at that time....regardless of who owns the
stud dog.
JM2Cents
Kathy

On 31/12/2007, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx  wrote:
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> In a message dated 12/30/2007 10:37:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes:
> I know  it is done, but perception and appearance would rule MY decision.
> Stormy
>
>
>
> What about the qualities, or lack of your entry.  That is the  only  thing
> that would rule MY decision.  Perception and appearance be  damned.
>
> Randy C.
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