I feel I must be strange ..Never in 40 years of breeding have I taken a temp on a bitch or never have I weighed a puppy...If they are not in distress I leave them alone ..I was 3 weeks late with my second child he was fine,,There are no 100% times to whelp some are early some have been 66days..I have not had a C section in over 20 years maybe longer..As long as there is no discharge and the bitch acts fine let nature take its coarse...regards Barbara Amidon http://www.geocities.com/amberkennel ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================