Ugh, it's true. The size of the rings are revolting in my opinion. How can we open up our dogs in the dinky little rings we're often provided with? Same goes for Danes and other breeds such as Rotties and BMDs. Another thing is the no skid surface. I went to a show in West Bend, WI ...the floor was terrible. Strauss slipped and slid every where. I decided to just pull him from going in for reserve. He pulled some muscles in his pasterns (or something of the like...either way he was limping), a couple of handlers fell in other rings, and I myself fell quite a few times because the floor was slippery as ice! - Jackie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================