[sac-forum] Re: Observing Site Distances
- From: Paul Dickson <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 15:00:47 -0700
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:41:13 -0700, Rick Tejera wrote:
> A better benchmark for northern sites would probably be the ministack at
> loop 101 & I 17, which is what I used here.
Why then the 101/202? :-) The difference is 14mi, which is the 101/I-17.
The 101/202 is closer to I-10/I-17 (by only 3/4 of a mile).
> Here's what I got from Streets & Trips, which jibes with my driving
> experience to the following sites (except antennas, which I've yet to get
> to):
>
> 5 Mile Meadow: from I17/I10: 147mi (Via Clints Well)
> from 101/I17: 134mi (via Clints Well)
Wow, I was only off my 3 miles by using the edge of a post-it note.
> Cherry Road: From I17/I10: 84mi
> From 101/I17: 70 mi
>
> Flatiron: From I17/I10: 57mi
> From 101/202: 71mi
>
> Sentinel: From I17/I10: 98mi
> From 101/202: 112mi
>
> Antennas: From I17/I10: 92mi
> From 101/202: 106mi
> I'd definitely advise NOT to take Stoneman lake road to 5MM. Although it
> save about 35 miles in travel, it 25 miles of washboard dirt road. Andrew &
> I can speak from experience having driven it while geocaching.
I get 16 miles from I-17 to Lake Mary Road. Were you instead measuring
kilometers?
The distance of 147 miles now saves 11 miles. How did you manage to save
35? A straight-line drive from Camp Verde? No wonder it was so rough :-)
I-17 106 mi 106
Stoneman Lake Rd 16 mi 6
Lake Mary Rd 9 mi
FR-229 5 mi 15
total 136 mi 127 (4x4 only and very lucky)
Doing some math, if you'd take Stoneman Lake Rd and want to arrive at 5MM
in the same amount of time as via Clints Well, you'd have to drive the
Stoneman Lake Rd segment at 32 MPH if the entire Clints Well route were
65 MPH, or 25 MPH if the other was entirely 55 MPH. These speeds are
probably still too fast for a washboard road.
Stoneman Lake Rd is not worth it. If road conditions do not allow an
average speed of at least 28 MPH, it will take longer than going through
Clints Well.
-Paul
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