Thanks. I am still looking some up, but I found 2. One for $25.00 top of the Hyatt every night. The other is top of Haleakala volcano,dinner, sunset view and telescope and astronomy lessons for $75.00. And some think our yearly fees are high. From: acrayon@xxxxxxx To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:17:48 -0700 Jimmy, glad you had a good time, despite the dewing factor. Debbie, perhaps you can find an astronomy group and make contact with them before leaving. I've seen several web sites of astronomy clubs and organizations in Hawaii but am not sure exactly where. Let us know what you find out. AJ Crayon Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: debbie roth To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers I will be going to Maui in Sept. I am thinking of looking up an Astronomy group while I am there. Hope I have the time. Aloha From: jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:55:47 -0700 The humidity was always around 65 % to 70 %. If your optics were the least bit cooler than ambient or as soon as the sun went down things would start dewing up pretty quickly. At times I had to keep the hair dryer close at hand to keep things clear. Sometimes the ship would dew up so much that I could actually “skate” around on the upper decks in just my tennis shoes as it got fairly slippery at times. It was a blast! Jimmy From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AJ Crayon Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:27 PM To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers Ahhh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, you just know how to twist the knife don't you. And eloquently at that. What scope did you have with you, the 20" SCT? :)) Regardless of the humorous jabs it sounds like you had a good time, but what did you mean by the "70° apart." I missed something simple here. AJ Crayon Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Ray To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers Hi AJ, Too bad you didn’t make your selection from; Grus, Indus, Pavo, Ara, Norma or Telescopium which I spent time working last week. How about a nice observation of NGC 6397 in Ara made at sea just off the Lava flows on the big island or some work around Beta Gru… (ain’t the Hawaiian Islands great!) ß except the dewing over at 70 degrees part! Aloha, Jimmy Ray From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AJ Crayon Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:05 AM To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers If worst comes to worst there's always my observations, but I'd prefer to use ones sent in by SAC members. Unfortunately it is the weather that makes it difficult during this time of year. But then everyone should look all over the astronomy stuff for old, or even ancient, observations. One place I'd recommend is between your Ethos lenses. ;)) AJ Crayon Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Harshaw To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers “So far I've only received observations from Dick Harshaw. Can't we do better? :)” I certainly hope so!!!! Richard Harshaw Cave Creek, AZ President, The Saguaro Astronomy Club (2009) From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AJ Crayon Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:57 AM To: SAC Forum Subject: [sac-forum] For brave observers Here's a list of objects for observing for those willing to give it a try for this weekend. Naturally they are from the monthly Call for Observations list and include Ophiuchus and Cygnus. So far I've only received observations from Dick Harshaw. Can't we do better? :) There seems to be more time for another pass at Ophiuchus. This time we will concentrate on globular clusters of varying magnitudes and concentrations. Starting out one of the brighter ones is NGC6235, you should be able to resolve some of the 14th to 16th mag stars – count them! Take extra care in locating the next 3 because there are 3 others witching 5°. First of the 3 is NGC6293 and is a little brighter than the first one but about twice as big. Moving on to NGC6304, towards the southeast, check to see if the brighter middle is noticeable. To the northeast is NGC6355 with its gradually brighter middle. These 3 form an equilateral triangle about 3° on a side and are part of the Herschel 400 list. Moving on to a challenge is IC 1257 a small, faint globular cluster. It was identified as a distant globular cluster in 1996. Perhaps even more of a challenge is HP 1, which I also will call small and faint. As an aid to finding the globular its location is 17 31.1 -29 59. The HP is for Haute Provence, a French Observatory. The final globular is located almost between beta and gamma Ophiuchi. It is NGC6426, another Herschel 400 entry. Can you detect the elongation described in the NGC description? With only two prior trip through Cygnus, now is the time for another. This list will include so not so well know objects and, for those their position will be listed. First we begin with the open cluster NGC6834 that is rather small and a little compressed. Next is the not so well known open cluster Biur 2, located at RA 20 09.2, Dec +35 29. From the SAC database it is 13’ has 10 stars with brightest 7.9. The asterism Red Necked Emu, located at RA 20 13.8, Dec 36 30 is 45’ and has 29 Cygni as its tail. What color stars do you see and what is the PA. Another open cluster that is off the beaten trail is Ru 173, located at RA|20 41.8, Dec +35 33. Its brightest star is reported to be 8th mag, amongst the 20 others in its 20’ area. Be sure to include size, number of stars and the brightest in your observing report along with any other interesting notes. Moving from open clusters to planetary nebula we start with NGC7008 and, although it is a Herschel 400 object, it is rather faint at mag 12 with a mag 13.9 central star. Note its elongation and estimate its PA. Also what is the double star attached towards the south? The other planetary is NGC7027 is small and bright. Skip the mag 16.5 central star and its bizarre spectrum. This last object is in the Best of the NGC. Enjoy! :)) AJ Crayon Phoenix, AZ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009