[sac-forum] Re: For brave observers

  • From: "AJ Crayon" <acrayon@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:17:48 -0700

Jimmy, glad you had a good time, despite the dewing factor.

Debbie, perhaps you can find an astronomy group and make contact with them 
before leaving.  I've seen several web sites of astronomy clubs and 
organizations in Hawaii but am not sure exactly where.  Let us know what you 
find out.

AJ Crayon
Phoenix, AZ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: debbie roth 
  To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:55 AM
  Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers


  I will be going to Maui in Sept.  I am thinking of looking up an Astronomy 
group while I am there.  Hope I have the time.  Aloha 

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  From: jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx
  To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers
  Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:55:47 -0700


  The humidity was always around 65 % to 70 %. If your optics were the least 
bit cooler than ambient or as soon as the sun went down things would start 
dewing up pretty quickly. At times I had to keep the hair dryer close at hand 
to keep things clear. Sometimes the ship would dew up so much that I could 
actually “skate” around on the upper decks in just my tennis shoes as it got 
fairly slippery at times.

   It was a blast! 

  Jimmy



  From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
  Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:27 PM
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  Ahhh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, you just know how to twist the knife don't 
you.  And eloquently at that.  What scope did you have with you, the 20" SCT? 
:))  Regardless of the humorous jabs it sounds like you had a good time, but 
what did you mean by the "70° apart."  I missed something simple here.


  AJ Crayon
  Phoenix, AZ

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Jimmy Ray 

    To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:12 PM

    Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers



    Hi AJ,



    Too bad you didn’t make your selection from; Grus, Indus, Pavo, Ara, Norma 
or Telescopium which I spent time working last week.  How about a nice 
observation of NGC 6397 in Ara made at sea just off the Lava flows on the big 
island or some work around Beta Gru… (ain’t the Hawaiian Islands great!) ß 
except the dewing over at 70 degrees part!



    Aloha,



    Jimmy Ray



    From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
    Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:05 AM
    To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    If worst comes to worst there's always my observations, but I'd prefer to 
use ones sent in by SAC members.  Unfortunately it is the weather that makes it 
difficult during this time of year.  But then everyone should look all over the 
astronomy stuff for old, or even ancient, observations.  One place I'd 
recommend is between your Ethos lenses. ;))


    AJ Crayon
    Phoenix, AZ

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Richard Harshaw 

      To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:59 AM

      Subject: [sac-forum] Re: For brave observers



      “So far I've only received observations from Dick Harshaw.  Can't we do 
better? :)”



      I certainly hope so!!!!







      Richard Harshaw

      Cave Creek, AZ

      President, The Saguaro Astronomy Club (2009)







      From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AJ Crayon
      Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:57 AM
      To: SAC Forum
      Subject: [sac-forum] For brave observers



      Here's a list of objects for observing for those willing to give it a try 
for this weekend. Naturally they are from the monthly Call for Observations 
list and include Ophiuchus and Cygnus.  So far I've only received observations 
from Dick Harshaw.  Can't we do better? :)



      There seems to be more time for another pass at Ophiuchus.  This time we 
will concentrate on globular clusters of varying magnitudes and concentrations. 
 Starting out one of the brighter ones is NGC6235, you should be able to 
resolve some of the 14th to 16th mag stars – count them!  Take extra care in 
locating the next 3 because there are 3 others witching 5°.  First of the 3 is 
NGC6293 and is a little brighter than the first one but about twice as big.  
Moving on to NGC6304, towards the southeast, check to see if the brighter 
middle is noticeable.  To the northeast is NGC6355 with its gradually brighter 
middle.  These 3 form an equilateral triangle about 3° on a side and are part 
of the Herschel 400 list.  Moving on to a challenge is IC 1257 a small, faint 
globular cluster.  It was identified as a distant globular cluster in 1996.  
Perhaps even more of a challenge is HP 1, which I also will call small and 
faint.  As an aid to finding the globular its location is 17 31.1  -29 59.  The 
HP is for Haute Provence, a French Observatory.  The final globular is located 
almost between beta and gamma Ophiuchi.  It is NGC6426, another Herschel 400 
entry.  Can you detect the elongation described in the NGC description?



      With only two prior trip through Cygnus, now is the time for another.  
This list will include so not so well know objects and, for those their 
position will be listed.  First we begin with the open cluster NGC6834 that is 
rather small and a little compressed.  Next is the not so well known open 
cluster Biur 2, located at RA 20 09.2, Dec +35 29.  From the SAC database it is 
13’ has 10 stars with brightest 7.9.  The asterism Red Necked Emu, located at 
RA 20 13.8, Dec 36 30 is 45’ and has 29 Cygni as its tail.  What color stars do 
you see and what is the PA.  Another open cluster that is off the beaten trail 
is Ru 173, located at RA|20 41.8, Dec +35 33.  Its brightest star is reported 
to be 8th mag, amongst the 20 others in its 20’ area.  Be sure to include size, 
number of stars and the brightest in your observing report along with any other 
interesting notes.  Moving from open clusters to planetary nebula we start with 
NGC7008 and, although it is a Herschel 400 object, it is rather faint at mag 12 
with a mag 13.9 central star.  Note its elongation and estimate its PA.  Also 
what is the double star attached towards the south?  The other planetary is 
NGC7027 is small and bright.  Skip the mag 16.5 central star and its bizarre 
spectrum.  This last object is in the Best of the NGC.





      Enjoy! :))


      AJ Crayon
      Phoenix, AZ



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