Have had a cord Vb for 20 years. Xenar. I have had great luck with xenon lenses on 35s as well... PJ Nebergall On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > ......anyway, Peter, what I forgot to ask you was this: You wrote > that you like > old xenars........HEY! What are you a smart guy or soemthing? > What's wrong > with Tessars????? Everybody knows that Tessars are better than > Xenars........:>) > > > Jerry F. > > --- Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dear Peter: > > > > I have no idea why you should think that this is a silly argument > despite the > > fact that everything you say is obvious and certainly true. What? > Are we to > > give up one of our favorite pastimes? What would you have us do? > Whinny about > > the differences between Leica and Contax or shimmy between > Japanese glass and > > German glass?? Clearly, THIS is a debate that has the merit of > time, even if > > it > > lacks sense. How else might we justify that we spent too much > money on a > > Xenotar or a Planar if we can not decry the other's obviously > foolish > > purchase > > of the other? > > > > Your points are all well taken and well understood by all of us. > Understood > > by > > all of us, I say, ......almost as much as we understand...... how > much better > > Planars are than Xenotars. :>) > > > > > > > > Jerry F. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > The Planar-Xenotar argument reminds me of the great rivalry > between Liszt > > > and Chopin. Folks were constantly and noisily debating their > merits, and > > > a tesrt was resolved. As I remember the story, a black curtain > was hung > > > between the piano and the audience. First each man played his > own > > > material, then, out of sight, each man tried to fool the > audience into > > > thinking the other was playing... In fact, Liszt did fool the > audience > > > into thinking he was Chopin -- but Chopin could not fool anyone > into > > > thinking he was Liszt (except in the Cockney sense!) > > > > > > Now -- can anyone tell the difference between the pictures, just > looking > > > at the pictures? > > > otherwise its close to a "difference that makes no difference..." > > > > > > Can anyone fool you into thinking its one when it was the other? > > > > > > I like my old Xenons and Xenars... esp for B&W -- but I don't > have a > > > planar... > > > > > > Because, just as "there's only one beautiful child, and every > mother has > > > it," people will sing the praises of their own lens... > > > > > > Hey, I even have a soviet-era "zenitar" which appears to be a CZ > J > > > Pancolar in a macro mount...' > > > > > > PJ Nebergall > > > --- > > > Rollei List > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'subscribe' > > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list