......anyway, Peter, what I forgot to ask you was this: You wrote that you like old xenars........HEY! What are you a smart guy or soemthing? What's wrong with Tessars????? Everybody knows that Tessars are better than Xenars........:>) Jerry F. --- Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Peter: > > I have no idea why you should think that this is a silly argument despite the > fact that everything you say is obvious and certainly true. What? Are we to > give up one of our favorite pastimes? What would you have us do? Whinny about > the differences between Leica and Contax or shimmy between Japanese glass and > German glass?? Clearly, THIS is a debate that has the merit of time, even if > it > lacks sense. How else might we justify that we spent too much money on a > Xenotar or a Planar if we can not decry the other's obviously foolish > purchase > of the other? > > Your points are all well taken and well understood by all of us. Understood > by > all of us, I say, ......almost as much as we understand...... how much better > Planars are than Xenotars. :>) > > > > Jerry F. > > > > > > --- Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The Planar-Xenotar argument reminds me of the great rivalry between Liszt > > and Chopin. Folks were constantly and noisily debating their merits, and > > a tesrt was resolved. As I remember the story, a black curtain was hung > > between the piano and the audience. First each man played his own > > material, then, out of sight, each man tried to fool the audience into > > thinking the other was playing... In fact, Liszt did fool the audience > > into thinking he was Chopin -- but Chopin could not fool anyone into > > thinking he was Liszt (except in the Cockney sense!) > > > > Now -- can anyone tell the difference between the pictures, just looking > > at the pictures? > > otherwise its close to a "difference that makes no difference..." > > > > Can anyone fool you into thinking its one when it was the other? > > > > I like my old Xenons and Xenars... esp for B&W -- but I don't have a > > planar... > > > > Because, just as "there's only one beautiful child, and every mother has > > it," people will sing the praises of their own lens... > > > > Hey, I even have a soviet-era "zenitar" which appears to be a CZ J > > Pancolar in a macro mount...' > > > > PJ Nebergall > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list