Hi guys-- I have been following the discussion of shutter cock and film advance with interest, as I have what may be a related problem with my Automat 3: After the first exposure on a new roll, I cannot advance the film till I have released the shutter a second time (I cover the lens to avoid double exposing the first frame). From frame 2 to frame 12 all works as it should (and the shots come out fine). I cannot tell without experimentation (I will now sacrifice a roll of film) whether this is due to a malfunction or my ignorance about exactly how far to advance the film when loading. I bought the camera last summer, did not get good instructions from the seller, and have dealt with this problem (intermittantly) ever since. To eliminate one variable: exactly where should the arrow on the film backing end up before closing the back of the camera? Perhaps the problem is my not advancing far enough? Thanks Bill Myers --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list