MY palm is a zone 7. Always. On 8/7/07, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That is a great observation. In contrast (bad pun, sorry), facial > flesh tones can vary by 2 stops or more. The palm thing is more a > quick and dirty baseline more than anything else... > > Eric Goldstein > > -- > > On 8/7/07, Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I have measured light from the palms belonging to > > persons of several races with differing skin hues and find less than > > than 1/2 f stop difference among them. > > > > Allen Zak > > > > On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:13 AM, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > Just like everything else... I've been told one stop, as the palm of > > > just about any hand is zone 6. > > > That's what's great about photography: no answer is right, and the > > > confusion can only be settled with yet another roll of film, or two. > > > > > > E. > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > > From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2ster@xxxxxxxxx> > > >> metering the palm of my hand in the same light as the subject, and > > >> adding two stops of exposure has always been a good start for me. > > >> > > >> On 8/6/07, ERoustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>> Thank you. That makes sense now. > > >>> > > >>> Elias > > >>> > > >>> On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Marc James Small wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> At 10:44 PM 8/5/2007, ERoustom wrote: > > >>>>>> I suspect that part of the canard of inaccuracy comes from the > > >>>>>> reality that we have institutionally forgotten that a selenium > > >>>>>> meter needs to be used differently from the manner in which a CdS > > >>>>>> or later meter is employed. LEARN how to use a selenium meter and > > >>>>>> it is perfectly suitable. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Could you give a novice a hint or two on the differences in using > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> two? > > >>>> > > >>>> Selenium offers a metering material which more closely matches the > > >>>> response range of chemical emulsions than do later materials such > > >>>> as CdS, SPD, or Gallium Arsenide. But selenium requires a wider > > >>>> acceptance angle -- no one has yet manufactured a one-degree > > >>>> Selenium spot meter! > > >>>> > > >>>> Accordingly, you have to average a good deal. This generally > > >>>> requires more attention to what is being metered coupled with > > >>>> sweeping the meter up and down and side to side to obtain an > > >>>> average reading. The reading so obtained should be quite usable. > > >>>> > > >>>> Marc > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > >>>> > > >>>> --- > > >>>> Rollei List > > >>>> > > >>>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> > > >>>> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > >>>> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > >>>> > > >>>> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > >>>> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > > >>>> www.freelists.org > > >>>> > > >>>> - Online, searchable archives are available at > > >>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> --- > > >>> Rollei List > > >>> > > >>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> > > >>> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > >>> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > >>> > > >>> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > >>> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > > >>> www.freelists.org > > >>> > > >>> - Online, searchable archives are available at > > >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Be Just and Fear Not > > >> --- > > >> Rollei List > > >> > > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > >> > > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > > >> www.freelists.org > > >> > > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > >> > > > > > > --- > > > Rollei List > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > -- Be Just and Fear Not --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list