I suspect Gene is getting at the true speed of the film with this mode of metering. Since they knocked out the safety factor in switching to ISO speeds, most shooters I know have circuitously arrived at shooting their film at a stop over what the box says. Of course, Gene could just have light palms ;-) Eric Goldstein -- On 8/7/07, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Just like everything else... I've been told one stop, as the palm of just > about any hand is zone 6. > That's what's great about photography: no answer is right, and the confusion > can only be settled with yet another roll of film, or two. > > E. > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2ster@xxxxxxxxx> > > metering the palm of my hand in the same light as the subject, and > > adding two stops of exposure has always been a good start for me. > > > > On 8/6/07, ERoustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Thank you. That makes sense now. > > > > > > Elias > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Marc James Small wrote: > > > > > > > At 10:44 PM 8/5/2007, ERoustom wrote: > > > > >> I suspect that part of the canard of inaccuracy comes from the > > > > >> reality that we have institutionally forgotten that a selenium > > > > >> meter needs to be used differently from the manner in which a CdS > > > > >> or later meter is employed. LEARN how to use a selenium meter and > > > > >> it is perfectly suitable. > > > > > > > > > >Could you give a novice a hint or two on the differences in using the > > > > >two? > > > > > > > > Selenium offers a metering material which more closely matches the > > > > response range of chemical emulsions than do later materials such > > > > as CdS, SPD, or Gallium Arsenide. But selenium requires a wider > > > > acceptance angle -- no one has yet manufactured a one-degree > > > > Selenium spot meter! > > > > > > > > Accordingly, you have to average a good deal. This generally > > > > requires more attention to what is being metered coupled with > > > > sweeping the meter up and down and side to side to obtain an > > > > average reading. The reading so obtained should be quite usable. > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Rollei List > > > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > > > > www.freelists.org > > > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Rollei List > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Be Just and Fear Not > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > F�ez"������h��ez)b���y�b��(��n�+�����%�襊�kz�����y�b��(� "�.n�+�����^���y�_��]9��� �x"��0��y�b��(�'���r��y�k�Y^�X������-~���+-����+a�{.n�+�����^���y�_��]9��� �x"��0��y�b��(���)ޱ��r����r�zƫy�ڊV��歆�i��0���zX���+���r�z���Y^�X�