[rollei_list] OT: Ansco Reflex Camera and Spades
- From: Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
No Allen, I do not long for those days. But neither do I see much virtue in a
climate not daring to call a spade a spade nor using any other word that starts
with S because it could also elicit a response to gender (sex) issues as well
as race issues. Not to mention a reference to those who are challenged by a
card playing deficiency within their personalities who for no fault on tyheir
part fall prey to preditory nature of commerce in the USA as illustrated by Las
Vegas. Las Vegas......once again, a reference which is demeaning to women (show
girls); Indians (their land); the terrible American diet (cheap buffets);
ecological disorder (poor use of water resources); immorality (prostitution)
and just think of the seondary smoke!!! Gosh, when you think about it, Las
Vegas, like the term spade just sums up all that is wrong with America.
And to think that all this started because of a discussion involving lookism
finding its origin in Ansco. You see! In that one company going defunct, so
many insults to modern sensibilities--and virtue!-- are eliminated.
Jerry
--- Allen Zak <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Don't you just long for those good old days when you could just call a
> spade a spade? ;->
>
> Allen Zak
>
> On May 15, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
> >
> > Thank you both Sandy and Richard. Someday i will run across someone
> > carrying
> > one and i will be able to see it. I know Wollansak made some good
> > lenses but i
> > would have expected a premier camera like this ansco to carry a
> > special named
> > lens with more cache, even if a Wollansak, because European lenses
> > were in
> > short supply.-- As for corporate logic being an oxymoron, you have no
> > idea of
> > how well the terms of ox and moron fit together if you have not served
> > time on
> > an academic campus. What the academic life lacks in financial rewards,
> > it more
> > than compensates for with sheer open-eyed, you got to be kidding,
> > dumb. For
> > instance, had the Ansco reflex been designed on a campus, it would not
> > have had
> > a lens on the premise that lenses are divisive and subject to
> > "look-ism".
> > Shutters would be fine, as long as each speed (and gender of speed)
> > was given
> > equal prominence. There could be no leather covering, for all the
> > reasons you
> > know and apertures would be listed as mellow, better, over achiever
> > etc. Do I
> > have to tell you that camera straps are......not gender neutral. And
> > as for
> > the non-leather covering being black, that would be an implied insult
> > to
> > African Americans who were being allegorized as being "external".
> >
> > .....maybe an academic was responsible for choosing Wollansak?
> >
> > Jerry F.
> >
> >
> > --- SandyF <sbf70@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there Jerry ...
> >> The Ansco is a TANK! but that's not as much of a disadvantage as
> >> might appear
> >> ... the extra weight makes hand holding at slow speed much easier. The
> >> loading of film is a PITA , but it works, and the fact that one has
> >> to cock
> >> the shutter prior to shooting is certainly NOT convenient. Other than
> >> that, I
> >> get excellent results, but then again, it is possible that I am easily
> >> satisfied!
> >> It is a FUN camera ... not unlike my Baby Rollei ... whenever I take
> >> either
> >> of them out (which I do regularly), I always get comments from some
> >> AK as to
> >> "Where do you get film" or "Gee ... I haven't seen one like that in
> >> xxxx
> >> years!"
> >> As to Corporate Logic ... having been involved with that for many
> >> years, I
> >> defer from answering your question ... in fact, the entire subject
> >> may be an
> >> oxymoron!
> >>
> >> Sandy F. Ö¿Ö¬
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> -- Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sandy:
> >>
> >> As you are the only person I have ever heard of that actually owned
> >> an Ansco
> >> reflex, I have to ask you about how you like it. How are the
> >> controls, etc
> >> compared with a rollei and what kind of results can you get from the
> >> lens? It
> >> has always been a mystery to me why Ansco put a less well known lens
> >> on so
> >> expensive a camera. What was their logic, do you think?
> >>
> >> Jerry F.
> >> ----------------------------------------------------
> >> --- SandyF <sbf70@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an Ansco Automatic Reflex that I have been using (very
> >>> happily) for
> >> lo
> >>> these many years (although I must admit that it is a tank compared
> >>> to my
> >>> Rollei)! On checking with a flashlight, I do find the the (2) bright
> >>> reflections and one (1) dim one.
> >>> Unfortunately, I cannot find a serial number on either the camera
> >>> body or
> >> the
> >>> lens ... for what that bit of information is worth!
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> Sandy F. Ö¿Ö¬
> >>
> >>
> >
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