[rollei_list] Re: 'Kodak, Don't Take My Kodachrome'

  • From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:52:26 -0700

In the US there is only two places to get K14 processing. Swaynes in
Kansas and Kodak. So it is dying a slow death to be sure.

On 6/2/05, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'd regret if Kodak discontinue Kodachrome 35mm slides
> production, I think it is not available for our market
> today, however Kodachrome is linked to my childhood.
> My father took hundreds of Kodachrome 35 mm slides
> using his Diax IIb and the Xenon Schneider 50 mm lens,
> also other lenses that I don't remember now.
> Writing from my childhood's memory, I remember that
> Kodachrome 35mm film was sold within an aluminium
> case, my father commented that the Kodachrome films
> were developed by an important lab and factory that
> Kodak had in the Panam=E1 Canal Zone. He put the film
> within a portable icebox if we traveled. The local lab
> sent the exposed film to Kodak in Buenos Aires, and
> then they sent the film to Panam=E1; after three or four
> months and thousands and thousands of kilometers we
> could enjoy the projected images with their wonderful
> colors.
> My father abandoned the photography ending the 60s'
> and around 1980 I remembered the Kodachrome slides
> looking for them. I found the slides, but my father
> believing to protect the slides put each one between
> glasses, the glasses condensed humidity and the
> results were a disaster, the slides got humidity and
> fungus. I could save around 90 slides using a liquid
> to clean them that a lab recommended and sold to me,
> but we lost hundreds.
> I enjoyed again those marvelous colors but due to the
> changes in our family I don't know who or where are
> the Kodachrome slides now, I'll ask to my relatives
> about them.
> Kodachrome were the best 35mm slides for me.
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> All the best
> Carlos
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>  --- Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx> escribi=F3:
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> > In Europe Kodachrome is still prepaid, and
> > processing is done in
> > Switzerland. I believe they're the last K-14 lab
> > operating in Europe
> > (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I do my part in
> > keeping it alive by
> > ordering as many rolls as I can manage. Dropping 8mm
> > might not affect
> > the rest of the product, as the article stated that
> > 16mm and 35mm
> > (motion picture) would still be produced and
> > processed. Isn't the 35mm
> > transparency stock about the same thing as 35mm
> > motion picture film?
> >
> > Thor
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2. jun. 2005, at 04.09, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > I still have a few prepaid Kodachrome mailers for
> > > Long Beach, not Rochester.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > Richard Knoppow wrote:
> > >
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John Jensen" <jwjensen356@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:36 PM
> > >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: 'Kodak, Don't Take My
> > Kodachrome'
> > >>
> > >>> Richard, it was in the early 50s (1954?, 1955?)
> > that
> > >>> the courts ruled that the monopoly Kodak had on
> > >>> processing Kodachrome had to stop.  As a result
> > of
> > >>> that ruling, independent labs could get into the
> > >>> business of processing Kodachrome.  If Kodak
> > wanted to
> > >>> stop processing Kodachrome they could
> > have/should have
> > >>> stopped then.  But they didn't.
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>>
> > >>   I'm not sure what issues the court decided. The
> > main one
> > >> was that Kodak was including the price of
> > processing in the
> > >> price of the film. I think by that time Kodak had
> > already
> > >> licensed some independent labs to process
> > Kodachrome to take
> > >> the load off Rochester, but I am not sure. I
> > think its
> > >> likely that Kodak never made much money from
> > processing. The
> > >> film was sold as a system, much like Kodak's
> > original box
> > >> camera which was returned to the factory for
> > processing and
> > >> printing and returned loaded with fresh film.
> > >>    I think Kodachrome is a victim of the
> > shrinking market
> > >> for film. Remember, that Kodak and Agfa are very
> > large
> > >> companies who made enormous volumes of
> > photographic
> > >> products. When the market for something shrinks
> > there are a
> > >> lot of operating costs that don't shrink, I think
> > this is
> > >> what all of the photo products companies are
> > fighting.
> > >> Kodak, at least, seems to be trying to keep some
> > aspect of
> > >> their original business but the pressures of
> > having to
> > >> return a reasonable profit to investors pretty
> > much limits
> > >> what management can do. Some management is simply
> > ruthless
> > >> about loosing parts of a company, sell them off
> > for what can
> > >> be gotten or simply eliminate them, take a one
> > time charge,
> > >> and be finished with it. Where there is a stable
> > or
> > >> expanding market there is reason to try to fix
> > poorly
> > >> performing businesses but where there is simply
> > not much of
> > >> a market, or it is shrinking, the problem is not
> > a broken
> > >> business that could expand its share but a simple
> > lack of a
> > >> place to sell the products no matter how well
> > they are made
> > >> or how well the company is run. This is a
> > completely
> > >> different thing in my mind from the disastrous
> > and
> > >> reprehensible mis-management of companies like
> > General
> > >> Motors or the big steel companies in the U.S. who
> > just
> > >> decided to shut down whole cities and move
> > elsewhere. Those
> > >> moves were made in an attempt to substantially
> > reduce
> > >> operating costs by eliminating well paid labor,
> > this is
> > >> something else. I wish Kodak luck in preserving
> > their
> > >> traditional business. Actually I also wish Ilford
> > and Agfa
> > >> well, but even if one or all survive they will do
> > so in a
> > >> different form than existed in the past.
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Richard Knoppow
> > >> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > >> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>
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