At 05:38 PM 3/15/2008 -0400, Allen wrote: >4. Knew about the practice, thought it disgusting, never did it, >wouldn't now. > >Allen Zak An alternative was to rub the tip on the bottom of your shoe, however no one wears leather-soled shoes any more, not sure what a sneaker or boat shoe would do. I think Richard or Marc can remind us of the model number of those early bulbs that were about the size of a current 40 watt light bulb. (The ones you often see on early Speed Graphics, or pictures of Speed Graphics anyhow). They took a lot of current to trigger, but that was in the days before the 22.5 Volt BC packs. I would suspect that bulb tip condition is no longer a serious issue, and it's likely (although I haven't looked) that the flash sockets now have a little higher pressure, and perhaps a little roughness to cut through the oxide on the lead tip. I strongly agree with those who say that flash bulbs will almost always provide more light than any amateur-level strobe. If someone has only used strobes, try a bulb some time, you will be amazed at the difference. Regarding blue bulbs under water, I still stand by the comments I made yesterday in response to a posting by Jerry. If anyone wants to discuss it, contact me off-list because most folks on this list really don't care about U/W lighting. I've been through it all, and have reached the age (and location) where I can mostly just talk about it, not do much of it. DAW --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list