[rodgersorgan] Re: New member, Hartley Mays, Cincinnati, Ohio

From: "Hartley Mays" <HMays22@xxxxxxx>
To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:19:33 -0500

Hi Ed,

Thanks for the welcome and the advice.

I've been successful in recording and playing back music from my instruments 
using Cakewalk, and I've used Cakewalk to modify some of the music.  I haven't 
understood too much yet about the channels and tracks, and your explanation 
helps there.  When I play back the recordings, it always sets back up the same 
stops and voices on the PR 300S that I used when I recorded.  What I would like 
to do, and have not seen a way with Cakewalk to do it, is experiment with 
different stops and voices by explicitly changing the program change and/or 
SYSEX messages with knowledge of what I'm changing it to that's coded into the 
software I'm using to change it.  I've seen with Cakewalk where the actual midi 
data can be modified, but that requires me to figure out the exact hex data I'd 
like to try.  If I can get some software working to do that (I've played midi 
data streams back through the system from java programs successfully, same as 
Cakewalk), then I think it could also be extended to do some interesting 
modifications to the music, for instance in terms of adding some of the effects 
such as pan, pitch bending, aftertouch into the music.

If there is existing software that accomplishes this sort of thing I haven't 
seen it, but part of my motivation is to use this as a way to learn and become 
fluent in the Java programming language, which I want to learn for my career 
also.  I've read a little about Cakewalk "plugins" but don't know whether that 
will be the best way to approach it or not.  A standalone Java program could 
have a GUI interface tailored specifically for the instruments I use.

Thanks again,
Hartley    


----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Wilson
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:38 AM
To: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rodgersorgan] Re: New member, Hartley Mays, Cincinnati, Ohio



Hartley,
Welcome to the list!
There is nothing "peculiar" about the MIDI GS or the Sysex Messages used in 
Rodgers Organs... all conform strictly to the standards established by the Midi 
Manufacturer's Association (MMA).  Very easy to set up Cakewalk for "instant" 
recording using a "template" set up for the 3 master channels used by your 
instrument, plus the MIDI coupler channels.  The template eliminates the need 
to "think" about what parts are going to which channel... it just does it!
What I did was give each master channel a "Name" (Great, Swell, Pedal, etc.).  
The master channels for these are 12, 13, and 14, respectively.
Then I gave each MIDI coupler a "Name" (MIDI GT A, MIDI SW A, MIDI PED A, 
etc.).  Those will correspond to channels 1, 2, and 3 on your instrument.
Channel 10 is (virtually) always the Rythym track, so I named it appropriately.
Then assisgn those channels with the proper port/channel input output using the 
track properties, and then save using the "Save As... Template" and give it a 
name.. such as "Rodgers" and you are done.  Then it is ready to go whenever you 
click the "New" Icon.
Best regards,
Ed Wilson
Hartley Mays <HMays22@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello!

My name is Hartley Mays, I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I have a Rodgers 535 organ 
and PR-300S that are for my and my family's use in our home. We also have a 
Technics piano with midi, and a Baldwin concert grand piano. We all play piano, 
and have interests in all kinds of music. I work as a computer programmer, and 
have the Rodgers instruments and the Technics cabled to my PC. I'm trying to 
sort out how to use Cakewalk to do sequencing and interface with all the 
instruments, and also want to write Java programs to do some of the work, for 
instance polishing up the sequences in various ways. I've found great freeware 
available to start on this, such as JMUSIC and JSYNTHLIB, but have not yet 
discovered existing code to help with the Roland GS Midi and the SYSEX messages 
peculiar to the Rodgers instruments.  

I discovered this group yesterday when the cursor happened to stop on one of 
the addressees in a mail to a Yahoo group I'm in, and the complete address got 
displayed.

I haven't yet gone through any of the archives for the list but it certainly 
looks great, and I look forward to communicating with all of you.

Best Regards,
Hartley  

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