Why Rodgers versus Allen. I have to be careful with this one. First, the Allen dealer here in Utah and where I was at in Idaho were very good dealers. I came close to buying an Allen as a replacement but backed off after I went through an Allen organ stop by stop and found some sound problems. I actually built a huge spreadsheet comparing the differences between equivalent cost Allen, and Rodgers organs. In many areas Rodgers was better, in several Allen was. I also looked at Church Organ Systems, Ahlborn-Galanti, Johannus, and Viscount. In fact, in one day in July I did a 200 mile drive so I could sample each of the organs at each dealer. Allen and Rodgers had better sounds than all the rest, in spite of the fact that the American brands are often twice the cost for equivalent stop numbers. But in the end, I felt the Rodgers came closest to replicating a classical pipe organ--based on my own subjective interpretation of about 20 measurements. That doesn't mean Rodgers is better than Allen for everyone, just to my ears, my pocketbook, and my research. I've found that it's often difficult to listen to dealers rip on each other in terms of the quality of samples, etc. You can say that a Johannus organ has the highest sample rate per rank of any organ (except Walker), but if it isn't voiced, amplified, and installed correctly, all of those individual note samples won't do a bit of good. Also, in Allen's defense, no one can doubt the quality of their service and that they back up their product for years. But Allen is very slow to introduce new technology. They've made only minor annual upgrades since Renaissance was first introduced. Although Renaissance sounds great compared to my current Allen models, sound/computer technology made leaps and bounds in the last five years. I also, honestly, looked at this list and the Allen list. This list seems to be a great community dedicated to utilizing the Rodgers features and promoting sacred and classical music. Allen seems to have captured many of the theatre organ crowd with whom I don't easily identify (I'm only 34, sorry). It seemed like I fit the mold of the Rodgers community better than the Allen Theater Organ Community. So, I'm glad to be here and I'm not looking back. I will, however, look at Allen again in ten years and see if they're not still resting on their laurels (and an ancient MDS Expander II!). Rick >>> candk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09/17/03 19:38 PM >>> Rick: Havng owned two previous Allen organs, can you tell us why you decided to s= witch? Thanks KRK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Vincent" <vincenri@xxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:59:33 -0600 To: <rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [rodgersorgan] New List Member in Utah Hello, my name is Rick Vincent. I am a new list member from Provo, Utah. I just purchased a Rodgers 967, to be installed in about a month (I can't wait). I've read through some of the posts on the list and see that the Rodgers community is a very active one and very focused on music. I also own two older Allen instruments, but will be giving those up to make room for the big three manual. Therefore, I cancelled my subscription yesterday to the Allen Owners list and am coming over to the other side. Rick ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Find new MIDI music and Guides to Rodgers Organs at www.frogmusic.com To post send messages to: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change mail delivery (digest, vacation) go to www.frogmusic.com/rodgersmem.html ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Find new MIDI music and Guides to Rodgers Organs at www.frogmusic.com To post send messages to: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change mail delivery (digest, vacation) go to www.frogmusic.com/rodgersmem.html ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Find new MIDI music and Guides to Rodgers Organs at www.frogmusic.com To post send messages to: rodgersorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change mail delivery (digest, vacation) go to www.frogmusic.com/rodgersmem.html