Why the crappy comment Dierking? I've been a ROC member for several years. Decreased attendance, hum..............You need to play nice. You think if I was not a member yourt crack would inspire me to join? Oh wait, you only launch at ROC events. And to think I actually thought you were a nice guy no matter what others said. CHEEKY enough for you Dick? lol just kidding, not! On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:48 PM, R Dierking <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > The BLM is a very large agency of the Department of the Interior. So, > Lee, you own the land because it's the federal government. :-). And, go > figure, there's lots of regulations that you can find on the Internet > regarding the use of BLM land. > Lucerne Dry lake is owned by a combination of the Federal Government > managed by BLM, the State of California to the North, and a number of > private land holding companies. The ROC launch takes place on BLM land. > Bottom line: if you want to launch your rockets, launch them at a ROC > launch. If you want to off on your own, you are on your own. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:37 PM, "Lee Scott" <leescott91006@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Richard > > Who owns the land that the BLM manages? > > Lee Scott > Cell 626-434-5810 > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, "R Dierking" <applerocketry@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > There's a misunderstanding about the requirement for BLM permits for > Lucerne Dry Lake, and I think it's good to keep the facts straight. Any > organized group needs a permit. At Lucerne there is no threshold for the > number of vehicles or > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:57 PM, "Michael Klett" <xsive.guy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I'm not really knowledgeable so I should probably keep my yap shut but I > find that very difficult. ;-) > > My understanding is that you would be OK with the model rockets (see the > CA definition of model rockets) but not with the high power as long as > there were not more than some small number of you. (Too many people and > it's considered an organized event subject to BLM approval and fees.) > > To fly HPR I think you need to get the FAA waiver and you need to be a Cal > Pyro Level 3 or have a Cal Pyro 2 with you. > > Of course, I'm probably wrong but at least I put a target up for some > darts... > > Thanks, > Mike > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Rocket1Dog <rocket1dog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Lets suppose that I have an assortment of model, mid and high power >> rockets I want to fly on the lake bed. Not in association with any one or >> any group or club. I am a NRA member and a L2. >> Would I be able to do this and not have the BLM nor State fire upset? If >> not, why? >> Thanks >> > >