[roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
- From: "Dok" <hanson@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:59:40 -0700
What about the big Sink Hole that RD found . Now thats a big hole in the groung
that the BLM can't say a word about . Haaa
Mark Dok Hanson
C 715-533-9521
H 715-695-3154
NAR L3CC - TRA TAP
Dokrocket.net
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From: Eric Williams
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Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
Forgot to mention that in the Army for noise discipline we would bury our
generators. What we did was dig a large hole deep enough to place the generator
in. The hole needed to be a few feet deeper then the generator was tall. The
ground absorbed much of the sound and the rest was directed vertically not
horizontal. The technique worked damn well kept the enemy from finding us
because of our noisy generators. ROC could invest in a small backhoe and dig
then fill holes for visitors I am sure the BLM would love this.
I guess that makes my total .04 cents put it on my tab.
Eric
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> When I ran my Genny or Gennys I use to try and get it or them turned off
8pm ish . The only time they ran later was when I charged ROCs radios in my or
the clube trailers . Never did see the need to run them later than that but
then thats me .
> My $0.02
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> Mark Dok Hanson
> C 715-533-9521
> H 715-695-3154
> NAR L3CC - TRA TAP
> Dokrocket.net
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> From: Jim - TFJ
> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:30 PM
> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
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> Unfortunately, this is the kind of issue that is on par with "don't throw
your garbage into the porta-potties.
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> People who are naturally respectful or have a momentary lapse will have no
problem if someone says
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> "Yo, it's midnight, can ya turn the blasted thing off?"
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> Folks of the ilk who continue to throw their garbage in the porta-potties
just are not going to care.
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> Jim G.
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> Laws are for the unlawful. And only then so that you can punish them after
the fact.
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> From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Tom Hanan
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:17 PM
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> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
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> Great Suggestion Rick.
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> Possible additions:
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> 1) Limit generator operation to west side to prevent the random
proliferation of generator use among those who want to hear the sounds of the
rockets.
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> 2) Limit RV generator operation after 10pm to the front row of west side so
that the larger RVs in the front row can act as a natural sound barrier toward
the west. This makes a much larger difference than you might think.
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> 3) Limit standalone (movable) generator use on the west side to the area
between RVs. It ruins the whole deal if standalone generator users, who can't
stand the sound of their own generators, place them out on the road where
everyone else on the west and east sides are forced to listen to them.
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> These are all just comon curtesy considerations that should have minimal
impact on peoples ability to enjoy the events! A simple sign posting the rules
and a few simple reminders should be all that is necissary to get the vast
majority of people to wilingly comply. But there will always be a few that need
additional help with their compassion towards others. Those "special" people
will likely get to talk to the profesionals that frequent these events!
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> Tom Hanan
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> From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of RICK MASCHEK
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 1:50 PM
> To: roc-chat
> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
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> Problem with generators was probably #1 when I was a park ranger in Death
Valley. I know some RV-generator types will want to be on/close to the
flightline. Perhaps east side of flight line generator/RV and west side NO
GENERATORS; for tents, SUVs, trucks, solar RVs and trailers, etc.
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> Rick
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> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:23:39 -0700
> From: Rick Dickinson <rtd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Generator etiquette
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> These are all good suggestions, and I'll be talking the issue over with
> the rest of the ROC board to see if we can come up with a good solution
> that won't be too draconian. We are holding the launch in June, which
> means that a lot of people are going to want to run their RV air
> conditioners, possibly all night, depending on what the nighttime
> temperatures are like. And, AC means generators.
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> ROC actually looked into the idea of renting a large generator, and
> selling "connection rights" to attendees 4 years ago, when we held LDRS
> 26 in Jean, NV. It turned out to be quite a bit more expensive than we
> originally thought, and would also have proved to be a huge logistical
> (and liability) headache, in terms of placing it far enough away to be
> unobtrusive, yet close enough to make power distribution possible
> without an electrician's nightmare of extension cords, etc.. Running
> regular extension cords makes sense for a personal camp site or two, but
> if you're supplying power for others as a paid service, you really have
> to do things "up to code" to avoid any potential safety issues (e.g.:
> running distribution wires overhead on poles or in buried conduits to
> avoid tripping or shock hazards).
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> We've considered rules like "no generators at night in the front row"
> in the past, but ran into the problem that we generally run a generator
> to charge up the radio and launch system batteries in the ROC trailer
> overnight, and Jack usually runs a generator to supply power to the
> What's Up Hobbies trailer, as well. Also, due to the fact that people
> arrive on-site over a wide time frame, it would be tough to enforce any
> sort of parking area restriction based on generator usage, or even
> direct people to the appropriate areas as they arrive.
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> I'm open to suggestions, here. I'd love to have a good solution, but
> the practical problems keep rearing their ugly heads.
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> Thanks,
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> - Rick Dickinson
> ROC President
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