I think the 7.5.2 installer didn't work because your friend is a lucky person, must live a charmed life. smile.
Indigo L On 11/22/2011 8:16 PM, Chris Belle wrote:
I'll let him tell you more details, but basically my understanding is that the process completed, and it said installing apps, but in the about window-eyes still says 751. So it really didn't install. The main give away is that sonar still works because it's still using the old reg hack. Go figure. At 07:06 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:I have no clue. What exactly does it look like it installed mean? Did it go through the whole process; prompt to reboot the system, and after doing so say it was installing apps? Tom On 11/22/2011 7:17 PM, Chris Belle wrote:Here's something even more interesting. My friend in Ok installed we 752 and it looked like it'd installed, but it didn't at all, the about still says 751. Now what on earth would cause that? At 01:06 PM 11/22/2011, you wrote:No problem, Chris. It's like the old adage regarding audio; if it sounds good it is good. So whatever works for you is the right way to go. Tom On 11/22/2011 1:14 PM, Chris Belle wrote:Thanks Tom. I don't think so as i created the executable short-cut myself to a folder on the d drive, and yes, I've tried different hotkeys. Yes, I always seem to get the issues no one else can duplicate. And of course I get bugs in other programs, jaws sure the heck ain't perfect, but these maddening things that happen with we have been going on since the whole re-write with v7. I've had discussion with another tech who isn't a programmer but a very advanced user in the since that he builds systems, and has used lots of software, and has been around since the old dos days too, and we both think we is somehow internally reacting with other programs somehow, could it be something in the script or toolkit, we discovered just such a thing in the first scripting class chip orange gave, where a variable was internally assign to we, and we couldn't use it I forgot exactly what, but it sure messed up some things. Turning off scripting does seem to help with some issues, but all of them don't go away. I'm just flumuxed. Well, thanks for being your usual helpful self. I'll keep investigating when i can, but right now, I've gone back to what works as I need to get work done. At 09:04 AM 11/22/2011, you wrote:Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience with 7.5.2, Chris. Strange. Lots of folks on the info list say it's more responsive. the only gripes I've seen are about Thunderbird. But folks both at GW and on the info list have said that Mozilla products are buggy whether there's a screen-reader on the system or not. I don't know what's up with Sonar, the registry entries, or why it's not getting along with the shark. Nothing was mentioned about anything being changed. And it's amazing how a small percentage of users can have so many weird problems and that some are very system specific. e.g. botched installations. I've done 20 installs on my Win 7/64 desktop and XP notebook and haven't had a single problem. And I haven't seen another message from anyone who has. But the Eudora thing is puzzling. I've never heard this from another Eudora user. It's somehow trying to run Window-Eyes. That's the only way you'll get the Window-Eyes is already running message. It's a standard programming practice for single instance programs. The first procedure that runs is always to see if the program is already running, and if so it displays that message, then closes. So either something's messed up with shortcuts or Eudora is inserting a Ctrl-Shift-W virtual key combination. I'd double check the shortcuts and try changing them just for the heck of it. I'd also look at the run command for Eudora and see if there are any parameters passed. If so, see if any of them are mapped to a Ctrl-Alt-W in Eudora's key map. Hth, Tom On 11/21/2011 11:15 PM, Chris Belle wrote:I am now using window-eyes 7.2 refresh. I suspect that since window-eyes 7.5, something's been very broken with we, I have had really funny stuff, it all started with the major re-write with 7 then got better with the 7.2 refresh, then got a whole lot worse again, with 7.5, and then really got upset with 7.5.2. I've just been trying to work in 7.5.2, and even though they put the access hack back in with a script, it's mushy. it feels jitery, that's the only way to explain it, like the speech can't keep up with me also stuff reported earlier, botched installations, I actually ghosted back, and silly me didn't keep a copy of 7.5.1 around can't lay my hands on that, so I can't go back to that. also there seems to be some kind of conflict with sonar, eudora and window-eyes, my main tools. It's the damnest thing I've ever seen. With window-eyes 7.5, once sonar just quit working period, and I had to re-install. Why would gwmicro take the registry values out of a perfectly working tool and make it have to happen with a script? This also fowled up jaws and jsonar, man what aggrivation in the middle of a very productive time too. I know that bugs have to happen, but this is ridiculous. I really like certain things about we, the mouse exploration methods, but we feels like a house being eaten up by termites, or as my friend Indigo put it, or a beloved wife who's lost her mind and you hope she'll come right, I bout fell out of my chair when he said that. My tool I've depended on for years even though it had it's weaknesses is no longer the most stable screen reader on the market. I sure don't want to make anyone mad, because there is one cat in our midst I know who's worked their butt off to make we better, but I can't be the only one this stuff is happening to. Well, one more sma and we'll see. maybe there's a 7.5.4 or a 7.5.5 ready in a coule months to address some of these strange issues. I am so sick of we can't reproduce the problem 'grin'. 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