[real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines

  • From: "jose" <crunch1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:52:05 -0600

if your being nice don't help, then make them do doggy   push ups! lol.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:05 PM
Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines


> "...won't try to help." That, or assume that all blind people are the same
> (fill in your own adjectives here) just as some have drawn an ecumenical
> conclusion from a single incident that may have a totally innocuous--even
> beneficent--origin and intent.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Andrea Breier
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:44 PM
> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>
> Exactly!!! If we freak out and snap when someone asks the wrong question, 
> or
> says the wrong thing we need to correct them in a good way.  That is what 
> I
> do.  Then the next time that person meets another blind person they will
> remember their experience with me and use what they remember with that new
> experience.  If it is a bad exchange they probably won't even try to help.
> Hugs, AJ
>
> Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love
> without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh
> often.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:35 PM
> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>
>
>> Yeah, it's like the checkout person trying to hand your change or receipt
>> to
>> your sighted companion. You can pitch a fit about it, or you could make
>> sure
>> you teach a lesson in a positive way.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Andrea Breier
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:07 PM
>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>>
>> I would look at it as a chance to educate others about blindness and low
>> vision.  Remember how you handle this situation or how you come across 
>> now
>> will effect the ones you speak to for years to come.  Where as you will
>> probable go on in life with out any memories of it beyond this week.
>> Hugs, AJ
>>
>> Recipe for happiness: Live with enthusiasm, smile for no reason, love
>> without conditions, act with purpose, listen with your heart, and laugh
>> often.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Erika Wolf" <wolferika101@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:18 PM
>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm not wanting to seem as though I'm overly-sensitive, but just because
>>> I'm
>>> blind, do I really have to be grilled by some airline flight staff about
>>> how
>>> much vision I have when this type of question isn't at all  relevant to
>>> the
>>> fact I'm needing assistance getting to the right gate area once inside
>>> the
>>> airport.  Surely, I'm not the first person  nor the last; that is blind,
>>> having a guide dog,American Airline has encountered that is needing
>>> airline
>>> assistance to ensure   proper departure and arrival will be made.  In
>>> addition what you are clearly failing to see is: I had already explained
>>> of
>>> being visually impaired and needing assistance to my gate and with pre
>>> boarding.  Why should it be appropriate for American to give me a hard
>>> time
>>> the way this flight agent did without me feeling as though my rights had
>>> completely been invaded upon?
>>> Sounds to me you are completely siding with the airline instead of a
>>> fellow
>>> blind person, who isn't being treated equitably  and in the right manner
>>> as
>>> one rightfully should whether sighted or not.
>>> Ignorance is obviously something we can not seem to get past on many
>>> levels.
>>> Respectfully Yours:
>>> Erika Wolf
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Mitchell D. Lynn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:52 PM
>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>>>
>>> First time for everything. I remember the first time a waitress asked me
>>> "if
>>> I needed a braille menu." Just another way of asking if I could see
>>> enough
>>> to read a print menu. Of course, whether one is offended by such
>>> questions
>>> depends on how the question is asked and how hyper-sensitive the one
>>> being
>>> questioned is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Erika Wolf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:29 PM
>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>>>
>>> I've never once been asked how much sight I have in the past by any
>>> airlines, including American.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Mitchell D. Lynn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:45 PM
>>> To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] Re: illegal questioning by american airlines
>>>
>>> It is an airplane, and weight issues are a concern. Asking how much 
>>> sight
>>> one has may be only to determine follow-up questions or in determining
>>> any
>>> extra assistance might be provided.
>>>
>>> No further steps needed. Chill out!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Erika Wolf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:42 PM
>>> To: Real-Eyes
>>> Subject: [real-eyes] illegal questioning by american airlines
>>>
>>> Hello list:
>>> I just had a very                unfriendly encounter by this new
>>> division
>>> at American Airline.  One of the  agents at the  Special Assistance Desk
>>> asked how blind I was  and how much my dog weighs when I called back in
>>> to
>>> see why I had been called earlier today by this department.  American
>>> Airline is getting way out of line with their questioning.  I answered
>>> the
>>> agent's questions, but feel as though my rights were violated, and 
>>> think:
>>> if
>>> someone over-weight needing or requesting two seats were asked how much
>>> he
>>> or she weighed, this too, would in fact be illegal to ask.
>>>
>>> What can we do as a collective group-united blind organization- to
>>> counter-act this type of treatment from occurring in the future?
>>>
>>> Please give me your input and what you think some remedies to the
>>> situation
>>> might be.
>>>
>>> Would there be a governing body to contact to report the type of
>>> treatment
>>
>>> I
>>> just received by the American Airlines Agent?
>>>
>>> Thanks, for getting back with me with comments or suggestions.
>>>
>>> Best  Regards:
>>>
>>> Erika Wolf
>>>
>>>
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