I agree. i have alot of aps built in to windows to jump ship even though I have an Apple IPod Nano fifth generation with VoiceOver. And i use ScanSoft Tom for the speech. It still wouldn't hurt to try though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx> To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [real-eyes] Re: JAWS Expert Needed >I may give that a shot, but I am not holding out hope they will be > able to reproduce this one. Firstly, it is JFW 7, and secondly, I > have never seen this before with JFW in more than ten years of using the > app. > I may be reaching that stage where I am compelled to upgrade. Just > about resigned to rebuild all from a freshly formatted HD. If I am > going to that much trouble--and it is a prodigious pain in the > a$$--then I might as well upgrade to Windows 7 while I am at it. Or > maybe it is time to consider looking at an Apple. Wonder if they make > anything that isn't portable! On second thought, an Apple would be a > good second computer, but I have too much tied up in Windows apps to > jump ship at this point. > > > > wrote: >>I would call FreedomScientific and see if they are able to reproduce the >>issue. I have had some wierd issues and sometimes, they are able to >>produce >>them, other times they aren't able to. >> >>Duyahn >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mitchell D. Lynn" <mlynn@xxxxxxxxx> >>To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:43 AM >>Subject: [real-eyes] Re: JAWS Expert Needed >> >> >> > It's reader specific as I don't see the issues with Win-Eyes. >> > >> > >> > I used system restore to go back to a check point. I haven't been able >> > to >> > find a reasonably recent full restore point. Is there a faster way to >> > get >> > to >> > a specific kind of restore point other than clicking each date >> > individually >> > and looking? >> > >> > It's not an insert+s kind of thing. Too flipping weird. >> > >> > BTW, multiple malware/spyware scans all turn up negative. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:real-eyes-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> > On Behalf Of Fettgather, Jim >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:18 AM >> > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [real-eyes] Re: JAWS Expert Needed >> > >> > Hi Mitch, did you ever actually use System Restore to roll back your PC >> > to >> > an earlier date? >> > >> > The only thing that I can come up with to cause Jaws to randomly repeat >> > letters in the way that you suggest is that the Jaws Screen Echo could >> > have >> > been toggled to All instead of highlighted. The command to toggle this >> > setting is Insert S. >> > >> > Just to determine whether there is a problem with your Jaws >> > installation, >> > I >> > really would consider installing a demo copy of another version, any >> > version, all prior versions are available from the FS web site. Or, >> > install >> > the highly acclaimed NVDA. >> > www.nvda-project.org >> > There is a portable version that will not compromise your system in any >> > way >> > and works very well. >> > >> > In that way, you would know right away whether the problem is screen >> > reader >> > specific or symptoms of a problem with the OS. >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Mitchell D. Lynn [mailto:mlynn@xxxxxxxxx] >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:54 PM >> > To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Subject: [real-eyes] JAWS Expert Needed >> > >> > Can anyone tell me if there is a setting in Windows or in JAWS that >> > would >> > cause it to repeat voicing of letters and buttons when using the JAWS >> > cursor? This started happening a few days back in a single program, but >> > now >> > I am starting to see issues all over the place. If I try, for example, >> > to >> > read icons on the desktop character by character, it will voice each >> > letter >> > anywhere from 1 to four times. Ditto if I try to check a filename in >> > Windows >> > Explorer. I have to actually start to rename the file to know for sure >> > how >> > it is spelled. In fact, all edit boxes seem to work correctly with the >> > JAWS >> > cursor; it is just in lists and things like buttons that have the >> > issue. >> > >> > Menus have started acting strange as well. I have loads of IE >> > Favorites, >> > and >> > while that large list worked fine last week, it scarcely works at all >> > now. >> > Alt+A opens the list, but cursoring up and down gives no speech at all >> > Alt+for >> > several presses, and then starts skipping randomly through the list. >> > Same >> > sort of issues with the Start Menu. There, however, it adds a new >> > twist; >> > impulsively opening folders and then says that they contain nothing. It >> > acts >> > a bit like a crazed drunken keyboard, and I swapped that out for a >> > wired >> > version. No good. Blown out display drivers and reinstalled. Also no >> > good. >> > Checked startup programs and services, and can't find anything there >> > that >> > isn't supposed to be, and virus scans were all negative. >> > >> > My fear is it's the work of an update from some program--perhaps >> > Windows >> > itself. Oh, and I did try restoring prev configuration/. All I have for >> > the >> > past few weeks is System Check points. Anyone know of a fast way to >> > find >> > the >> > last full restore point in XP SP 3? BTW, my version of JAWS is pretty >> > old: >> > version 7.x. >> > >> > >> > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> > options, >> > go >> > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> > >> > >> > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> > options, >> > go >> > to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> > >> > >> > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >> > options, >> > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes >> > >> > >> >>To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription >>options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, > go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes > > To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes